Parachutes on airliners...

[skydiverdriver2]

I recall seeing an FAR a long time ago about taking parachutes, used for sport parachuting, on civil aircraft. I believe it said that you couldn't have them, unless you are using the aircraft for parachute jump activities. Does anyone else know what that reg was, or am I remembering it wrong? I can't seem to find it.

I see people getting on airliners on occasion, carrying parachute rigs to put under their seats. I also want to check their reserve packing date, as I could get in trouble if it's out of date. But, is it simply illegal to even have it there? Do they have to check it at the ticket counter? Thanks for the info.

 

[oldxfr8dog]

It's baggage.
They couldn't get a door open,anyway.
Whadda you mean you have to check their reserve packing date?

 

[skydiverdriver2]

It's baggage.
They couldn't get a door open,anyway.
Whadda you mean you have to check their reserve packing date?

Can't get the door open? No kidding! Ever hear of DB Cooper? What if the plane comes apart like TWA 800?

Actually, there is a reg that if the reserve parachute has not been packed by a certified parachute rigger within 90 days, the pilot will be breaking an FAR by letting it on his plane. You see, jumpers don't have FAA certificates, but pilots do. I used to fly skydivers. I still think there is a reg about bringing it on at all, but I'll have to look it up.

Thanks

 

[Flyer1015]

Are you serious? DB Cooper was a planned hijacking with a planned jump. Most aviation accidents occur during takeoff and landing and no one is going to be able to jump out of an airplane with a parachute. Even in TWA 800, the explosion and decompression wouldn't give you enough time to find your parachute, strap it on, find your way out of the plane and jump.

 

[Bluestreaker]

I recall seeing an FAR a long time ago about taking parachutes, used for sport parachuting, on civil aircraft. I believe it said that you couldn't have them, unless you are using the aircraft for parachute jump activities. Does anyone else know what that reg was, or am I remembering it wrong? I can't seem to find it.

I see people getting on airliners on occasion, carrying parachute rigs to put under their seats. I also want to check their reserve packing date, as I could get in trouble if it's out of date. But, is it simply illegal to even have it there? Do they have to check it at the ticket counter? Thanks for the info.

Look it up, Part 105. There are no FARs prohibiting taking a parachute on a civil airplane. The only time a PIC has to insure the reserve is in date is if parachute operations are being conducted from an A/C the PIC is operating. The reserve repack date is 180 days now.

 

[oldxfr8dog]

Yeah, DB was over 42 years ago. The "DB Cooper Door" was a fake.
So, reserve chutes in the belly must be in compliance?
I really hope that you don't have 11 k tt.
Where do you really work?

 

[skydiverdriver2]

Look it up, Part 105. There are no FARs prohibiting taking a parachute on a civil airplane. The only time a PIC has to insure the reserve is in date is if parachute operations are being conducted from an A/C the PIC is operating. The reserve repack date is 180 days now.

91.307 Parachutes and parachuting.
(a) No pilot of a civil aircraft may allow a parachute that is available for emergency use to be carried in that aircraft unless it is an approved type and has been packed by a certificated and appropriately rated parachute rigger—
(1) Within the preceding 180 days, if its canopy, shrouds, and harness are composed exclusively of nylon, rayon, or other similar synthetic fiber or materials that are substantially resistant to damage from mold, mildew, or other fungi and other rotting agents propagated in a moist environment; or....


So, even if impractical, any parachute availabe in the cabin must have an up to date packing date for the reserve.

 

[skydiverdriver2]

Are you serious? DB Cooper was a planned hijacking with a planned jump. Most aviation accidents occur during takeoff and landing and no one is going to be able to jump out of an airplane with a parachute. Even in TWA 800, the explosion and decompression wouldn't give you enough time to find your parachute, strap it on, find your way out of the plane and jump.

Whether it's practical or not was not my question. DB Cooper jumped out of an airliner in flight. Every skydiver knows who he is and what he did. I've also had many skydivers tell me they think they could have jumped out of TWA 800 if they were there. It doesn't take that long to put on the rig. So, that is why they are carrying it on the plane. But, practical or not, that has nothing to do with my question.

You must check to see if the reserve was packed within 180 days, or you are breaking an FAR. I would also recommend you make sure the AAD, or automatic activation device, commonly known as a Cypress, is turned off. Otherwise the pressurization cycle of your aircraft could cause it to cut the reserve cord and you would have a parachute all over the cabin of your plane.

Thanks for all the help.

 

[skydiverdriver2]

Yeah, DB was over 42 years ago. The "DB Cooper Door" was a fake.
So, reserve chutes in the belly must be in compliance?
I really hope that you don't have 11 k tt.
Where do you really work?

What do you mean by saying the DB Cooper Door was a fake? All 727's have a little flap on them now that the wind blows back, preventing the aft stairs from being deployed in flight. Skydivers also go up in 727's and jump out the back door, which gets them the "DB Cooper Award," a coveted item by skydivers. What does how long ago it happened have to do with it? I'm not sure about checked bags, but the reserve could still deploy if the AAD is active. What is 11 k tt?

 

[APFPilot]

Easy fix: "this parachute is not for use and my not be used for any reason at any time"

In all reality I'd bet TSA would give you some weird looks if you carried on a parachute.