Overtime pay for people who makes Less 23600$

[pilot1704]

Anyone knows if this goverments new law about overtime pay could give a release for regional pilot from low pay!

Law says something about garanteed overtime time and half for those who gets less than 23600$ per year!

Anyone knows more about this!

 

[EatSleepFly]

I saw that too and wondered the same thing.

No doubt, there's probably some loop hole that will keep pilots pay (regional or otherwise) from getting any better.

 

[Propsync]

No overtime for anyone. Only the rich will get richer. It's your fault you aren't smarter and can be in charge and own the business and give money to Republicans for dumb a@# laws like this. But I really want to vote for GW Bush. He's looking out for me. And those tax cuts really helped....

 

[blzr]

being that the new rules do not apply to collective barganing, this shouldn't have anything to do with airline pilots. Maybe to the guys at the copy machine at corporate.

 

[smellthejeta]

Or the rampies, but we already got paid overtime anyway.

 

[AvroJockey]

But I really want to vote for GW Bush. He's looking out for me.

Anyone that believes a politician, in a capitalistic society, is looking out for his or her personal and financial affluence is obtuse. Anyone that relies on a politician to ensure personal prosperity or well-being should move to another country. Your either Capitalistic or Socialistic! What’s your pleasure?

W in '04

 

[DorkProp]

Just read an article about this the other day in Aviation International News. There has been a long-standing exemption for airline pilots. Here's a quote from the article with a reference to the federal law:

However, company paymasters or anyone having to do with payrolls by whatever title might want to take a hard look at what the DOL has to say in its preamble to FairPay. On the Internet, go to www.dol.gov, click on “FairPay Overtime Rules,” and then, on the right side, click on “Preamble” and scroll down to page 36 of 71 pages and refer to the section entitled “Pilots.” This is what the section says:

“Most pilots are exempt from Fair Labor Standards Act overtime requirements under section 13(b)(3) of the Act, which exempts ‘any employee of a carrier by air subject to the provisions of title II of the Railway Labor Act.’ Thus, pilots who are employed by commercial airlines are exempt from overtime under 13(b)(3). However, the status of other pilots, such as pilots of corporate jets, is determined under 13(a)(1), and has been the subject of recent litigation.

 

[IP076]

I think the deal is for "Salaried" persons making over 23.6k. So, I don't think a lot of airline personal...gate agents, rampers, and such.....will be affected. I think most of them are considered "Hourly"

 

[sstearns2]

Also a lot of states, like California, have laws that supercede this rewrite of federal law.

Your either Capitalistic or Socialistic! What’s your pleasure?

Bush is no more Capitalistic or Socialistic than Clinton or Bush Sr. In fact he may be less capitalistic. Bush Sr. and Clinton gave us NAFTA, but Bush Jr. put huge tariffs on imported steel to keep our steel companies in business and gave out huge contracts in Iraq with no competition. Bush is all about keeping the wealthy rich. The best economic times in this country have been when the tax rate on the top 1% have been the highest, but Bush has caused huge cuts in not only in the top income tax bracket, but also in the dividend tax (40% of dividends go to the top 1%) and the estate tax (Bill Gates Sr. is a huge opponent of cutting the estate tax). I don't have a problem with people being wealthy if their hard work and intelligence got them there, but I do have a problem with people being wealthy because their great grandfather was hard working and intelligent. The wealthy, for the most part, control the country which generally works out pretty well if they are self made. The problems come when the people in control are there not because they are smart and hardworking, but purely because of their ancestry. Dubya is clearly in this category.

Dubya was offered the best education in the world, but was more interested in partying, got a DUI for driving off the road and into a hedge, his dad got him into the ANG to help protect Texas from the VC, started an oil business that drilled empty hole after empty hole, but his company got bought out (with Saudi money) anyway since his dad was VP, he got put on the board of Harken since his dad was VP and proceeded to sell $800K worth of Harken stock two weeks before the stock plummeted because he had inside information, he didn’t cooperate with the investigation (why should he, his dad is VP and he'll go on to make a huge cut in SEC funding as President), he quit the Board (after being encouraged to by the Chairman), bought a baseball team and got the city to float a huge bond measure to build his team a new stadium and give him the rights to use it, he then sold the baseball team at a huge profit since it now had a nice new stadium paid for by the people, he then used his dad's friends and fund raising machine to get into politics.... Yeah this guy is all about ethics and capitalism.

Scott

 

[scabseeker]

You are right on Sstearn. It is called crony capitalism and it is all about keeping your friends and family in power and wealthy at the expense of others. It is explained well in the book "Big Lies" by Joe Conason.

AvroJockey is right it. You are either capitalistic or socialistic. The only problem is the working stiff is treated like the capitalist..."sorry your wages and benefits suck but that's the market at work" and the corporations are socialist..."give me those tax breaks or I won't build a factory in your town" or "We need government money to bail out our airline."

Since I'm a working stiff I guess it's capitalisim for me.

 

[GogglesPisano]

Wow. These last two posts are like a moment of clarity, relief from the incessant bombardment of right-wing idealogy which permeates this place.

Fiscally conservative, socially liberal, silent majority. See you in November!

 

[Yudso]

I believe that the estate tax is a huge ripoff. What right does the government have to money that has already been taxed? No one tells us how to spend our money when we're alive, what gives them the right to tell us how to spend it when we're dead.

 

[Dan CFI/CFII]

"No one tells us how to spend our money when we're alive, what gives them the right to tell us how to spend it when we're dead."

Easy! We can't argue with them or cost them votes.

Dan