OpSpec C082 / Landing Distance Req'd

[HawkDrvr]

With this new deal coming out we need to figure out how it applies to FAR 135.385.

Will this new 15% margin need to be added to the AFM Actual Landing Distance and after this will we need to be able to land with the AFM # Plus the 15% within 60% of the effective landing distance..???

Here's an example and someone tell me if I am correct.

1. AFM say 3000' req'd....
2. 3000' + 15% = 3450'
3. I want to land on a 5000' RWY therefore I can't because 60% of 5000' is 3000' ...

I am right or wrong ??? Please help....

 

[soarby007]

We don't have this one yet. Can you put a copy on here?

 

[soarby007]

I just found the FAA order and it specifies it for Part 125, aircraft over 20 seats and/or 6000 lbs payload. Are you sure it applies to you?

 

[HawkDrvr]

http://www.ainonline.com/Issues/07_06/07_06_FAA_1.htm


Yes, it applies to FAR 91K, 121, and 135 operators.

 

[soarby007]

http://www.ntsb.gov/Events/2006/ChicagoIL%20SW/Exhibits/349390.pdf

You might try looking at this explanation of the OPs spec. I didn't thoroughly read the thing, when I sent the previous post.

As I read this, the 135.385 calculations are a preflight calculation. Currently the regs do not require you to actually re-calculate the distance if the conditions deterioriate enroute. I can't imagine a pilot who wouldn't do this, but this evidently is in response to the Southwest accident.

I don't think this is going to change a whole lot of things, but who knows how things will be interpreted.

 

[timmay]

The changes dont apply to the 60% rule. It only applies to actual landing distance. The other change is that the actual conditions at time of landing need to be considered in the calculations prior to landing.

 

[mike1mc]

Questions have been asked and are currently being answered by the FAA regarding the proposed Ops Spec. The 15% is for the actual conditions at landing. Each carrier will need to develop a training program and procedure to accomplish this. A lot of answers reamin unanswered. Send your comments to the FAA so your concerns are heard before they issue the final rule.