NWA rejects F/A contract

[WMUSIGPI]

Any guesses how things will play out in red tail land?

 

[redflyer65]

I don't forsee a all out strike, but I see selective work stopage on certain flights. Maybe those long haul money makers? Anybody else thinking the same way?

 

[Detroitpilot22]

chaos
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Havoc
around
our
System

Is what will happen starting tomorrow. Random walkouts, sometimes even after boarding has begun. Its keeps NWA management off gaurd.
It is going to get REALLY UGLY at Nwa in the next couple weeks. I salute the flight attendants for at least trying.

 

[goodto50meters]

I don't forsee a all out strike, but I see selective work stopage on certain flights. Maybe those long haul money makers? Anybody else thinking the same way?

CHAOS Baby!!!!!!!!

 

[YourPilotFriend]

Nope, injunction to be filed shortly to prevent job actions. The flight attendants fate was decided when the pilots agreed to their contract. The pilot deal had a clause that the flight attendant's contract had to meet the company ask. So if the company backs down on the TA that they imposed they lose the pilot deal and the other unions. It's the judge's legal job to protect the company from creditors such as the flight attendants.

 

[PCL_128]

Nope, injunction to be filed shortly to prevent job actions.

There's no guarantee that the injunction will be granted. Things could get very ugly. I just hope the FAs don't back down.

 

[redflyer65]

The flight attendants aren't a creditor, but I know what you are getting at. I see the judge having to make a ruling for or against work action. The one unknown is if there will be a full, all-out strike. And if the judge would try to order them back, and how many would just up and quit. You can't order someone to work who doesn't want to be there. Interesting times.

 

[atrdriver]

Nope, injunction to be filed shortly to prevent job actions. The flight attendants fate was decided when the pilots agreed to their contract. The pilot deal had a clause that the flight attendant's contract had to meet the company ask. So if the company backs down on the TA that they imposed they lose the pilot deal and the other unions. It's the judge's legal job to protect the company from creditors such as the flight attendants.

They can try for an injunction, but my understanding is that if their contract has been thrown out by the company, then they are no longer covered by the RLA, so a strike really can't be "stopped".

 

[YourPilotFriend]

They can try for an injunction, but my understanding is that if their contract has been thrown out by the company, then they are no longer covered by the RLA, so a strike really can't be "stopped".

That kind of ruling will need to be made at a higher court, but for now if the judge allows an injunction it will stand. I believe at that point NWA will look for a way to dissolve the union. Most likey a merger with Delta would accomplish that.

 

[xjhawk]

wow a chink in ypf armor......

 

[atrdriver]

That kind of ruling will need to be made at a higher court, but for now if the judge allows an injunction it will stand. I believe at that point NWA will look for a way to dissolve the union. Most likey a merger with Delta would accomplish that.

So they disolve the union. That doesn't stop them from quitting, and NWA couldn't hire and train enough new ones fast enough to keep their flights operating. No injunction can stop people from quitting their jobs.

 

[YourPilotFriend]

So they disolve the union. That doesn't stop them from quitting, and NWA couldn't hire and train enough new ones fast enough to keep their flights operating. No injunction can stop people from quitting their jobs.

Well considering united recieved 80,000 apps for their attrition replacements. Don't forget that many of the FA's who voted against the contract decided they would work for it, but not vote for it. The union is also looking for compromise, possibly a we won't strike if you impose TA2 instead of TA1.

 

[eaglefly]

You're obviously a NWA management lackey.

The F/A's will hopefully resign enmasse over the next several weeks. The customers will act in their own best interest and bail permanently on this ethically fecal managment and airline.

Hopefully, the potential investors will then pinch their noses at the stench of this increasingly smelly turd leaving those who squeezed it from their lower cheeks to wallow in its glory.

 

[_BravoWhiskey_]

hate to say it, but I seriously doubt the Bush admin. will allow any strike. They have already issued a blanket moratorium on airline strikes and have been on record saying there will be no strikes on their "watch". Unfortunately, part of the RLA actually lets the *US Congress* impose a contract should all else fail... all without there ever being a strike.

Hard to believe this industry has sunk this far.

 

[atrdriver]

hate to say it, but I seriously doubt the Bush admin. will allow any strike. They have already issued a blanket moratorium on airline strikes and have been on record saying there will be no strikes on their "watch". Unfortunately, part of the RLA actually lets the *US Congress* impose a contract should all else fail... all without there ever being a strike.

Hard to believe this industry has sunk this far.

What you don't seem to understand is that if their contract has been thrown out, the administration doesn't have anything to say about a strike. Once the contract has been thrown out they are no longer covered by the RLA. It is possible a judge may impose an injunction stopping a strike, but they can't stop people from leaving. The only thing that stops a strike in the first place is the contract under the RLA. If the judge has thrown that out...

 

[Turtlesfly]

You're obviously a NWA management lackey.

The F/A's will hopefully resign enmasse over the next several weeks. The customers will act in their own best interest and bail permanently on this ethically fecal managment and airline.

Hopefully, the potential investors will then pinch their noses at the stench of this increasingly smelly turd leaving those who squeezed it from their lower cheeks to wallow in its glory.

Ok, thank you for the very graphic description as I'm eating my breakfast.

 

[flyn96]

A judge allows throwing out a contract and then an injuction against a strike. I think thats called slavery!

I think ATR is right, once your contract is tosses the RLA does not apply.

I think someone said Bush won't allow a strike. Does everyone remember that NWA mechanics are on STILL on strike. Yes they have been replaced but they are still on strike. You can still see one every once in a while at MSP with a sign.

 

[Spiritflight]

google "Norris-LaGuardia Act"

 

[DirkkDiggler]

A judge allows throwing out a contract and then an injuction against a strike. I think thats called slavery!

Actually you're a bit off here. Congress cannot make anybody go to work against their will. However, they can fire anyone who doesn't show up for work which is different than going on strike where you will have your job back once the strike is over. It's always up to the employee if they want to go to work or not. The question is, when they leave, do they want to come back ever again?

 

[XJohXJ]

It's getting easier and easier to just walk away from the big stinking turd that is NWA and their dysfunctional red-tail family. Good job FA's, don't give up.