Numbers matter! Who has the bigger group?

[luckytohaveajob]

UAL pilots should do the same thing but instead of changing unions should get the contract moving in the right direction.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/United-Continental-flight-apf-3787811751.html?x=0&.v=5

 

[eaglesview]

You're going to have to explain how that artical has anything to do with the pilots situation at UAL

 

[Ex737Driver]

UAL pilots should do the same thing but instead of changing unions should get the contract moving in the right direction.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/United-Continental-flight-apf-3787811751.html?x=0&.v=5

Care to enlighten us with your vast contract experience what exactly it is we should be doing?

 

[Instigator]

I liked you better when you called yourself PoconoPilot.

 

[Data]

I liked you better when you called yourself PoconoPilot.

Well played!

 

[luckytohaveajob]

Care to enlighten us with your vast contract experience what exactly it is we should be doing?

The UAL pilots should be using their superior numbers to stuff the CAL pilots into a hole.

 

[xjhawk]

thats not a way to build a good airline to ensure job security......

 

[Flopgut]

The UAL pilots should be using their superior numbers to stuff the CAL pilots into a hole.

That's a great plan. You guys are already in a hole. So let's dig a real huge one that we'll both fit in. Management will love it!!!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

thats not a way to build a good airline to ensure job security......

Oxymoron...........

 

[luckytohaveajob]

Exactly. It is managements job to build a good airline.

It is the pilots job to get paid as much as possible to fly safe airplanes. Why is the union concerned about the viability of the carrier? One of the first decisions the unions publicly asked is the new carrier going to be viable? What a stupid question for labor to be asking.

Did labor have the control to decide this question? No. Labor does not set the business plan. It does not set the goals. It does not execute the business plan or make the future happen.

Labor does their task and performs it as needed. Management makes the plan and meets the goals.

Pilots think they are management. Flight attendants and mechanics do not. FA and mech show up, do their job, and get paid. And management fears FA's and mech's because management knows if it screws with them they will stop doing their work, slow down doing their work, and create HAVOC.

Pilots, on the other hand, think they can play tiddly winks with management and beat management at three card Monty.

And CAL pilots have been playing tiddly winks with management for 25 years. CAL pilots do not act like airline pilots. Ask a CAL pilot what he wants and they will start talking about the viability of the company.

CAL pilots should be concerned about how much they are getting paid now. Not what is going to happen, what might happen, or what could happen.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

That's a great plan. You guys are already in a hole. So let's dig a real huge one that we'll both fit in. Management will love it!!!

Sometimes you have got to rearrange the furniture to get a new look.

CAL ALPA needs a lot of anger in its messages. It needs to fire up the group and get some action.

 

[St. Nic]

The UAL pilots should be using their superior numbers to stuff the CAL pilots into a hole.

OUtstanding post!!! Thats the idea that we all know is true. CAL pilots are along for the ride Ive been saying this for how long on here? UAL PIlots control the merger!

 

[JetMonkey]

OUtstanding post!!! Thats the idea that we all know is true. CAL pilots are along for the ride Ive been saying this for how long on here? UAL PIlots control the merger!

Sorry a$$ wipe, everyone has learned from OUR little merger.. Contract FIRST, then seniority list. No more running away from an abitration award. The Cal and Ual pilots are BOTH controlling that one.

 

[Flopgut]

OUtstanding post!!! Thats the idea that we all know is true. CAL pilots are along for the ride Ive been saying this for how long on here? UAL PIlots control the merger!

You are some kind of extraordinary idiot.

We got put in a deep enough hole just by having the UAL guys' horrible contract enter the equation.

 

[St. Nic]

You are some kind of extraordinary idiot.

We got put in a deep enough hole just by having the UAL guys' horrible contract enter the equation.

I had the chance to cross a line at your airline but my ethics said no. I ended up at USAir and im proud of my decision. Your airline is trouble.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

I had the chance to cross a line at your airline but my ethics said no. I ended up at USAir and im proud of my decision. Your airline is trouble.

Union positions should be filled with the hostages from the last deal.

CAL ALPA is full of management apologists. Where is the fight in Jay Pierce? What line has he even come close to treading? He is all management. His messages are so watered down I do not even think he has a pulse.

Lets start reading some union messages of the names of some hero's. It these hero's we need to start holding up who are the next union leaders.

 

[Flopgut]

I ended up at USAir and im proud of my decision.

Are you proud of what you turned it into?

 

[uba757]

I had the chance to cross a line at your airline but my ethics said no. I ended up at USAir and im proud of my decision. Your airline is trouble.

Man, do you really want to talk about your ETHICS! I have been reading what you write for a while and have never replied to any of your idiotic responses but this one, this one was just way too unbelievable to pass up! Sir you have no ETHICS nor MORALS! Have a nice day. uba757