Northrop Grumman Hiring - Why Turnover?

[Heavy Set]

I noticed more job postings for Northrop Grumman on avcrew.com recently (Citation X, Excel and GIV out of various bases). It seems that Northrop has had a lot of turnover in their department - I have seen these ads many times over the last few months.

I have reviewed previous posts related to this flight department. I understand that many negative viewpoints exist regarding pay and work rules. So, why is it, generally, that the turnover is so high? Don't you think NG would catch a drift and change/improve work rules to retain employees?

If you had the opportunity, would you want to work for these guys? If not, why? What's the real story?

 

[Gulfstream 200]

you ask why there is a high turnover?

then you say you know about the low pay and the poor work rules?

still wanna know about the high turnover?

no offense...but what more do you want to know?
my GUESS (and its just that) is that the high turnover is due to guys/gals finding....um....better jobs??

call me crazy.

 

[Roadie]

Pro Pilot did one of their cover stories on NG within the last year or two, I think. Sounded like a really horrible place to work - no wonder its a revolving door.

Plus, if Pro Pilot showcased it, I have some serious reservations anyway. Anyone remember the Lear 35 dept they featured back in April or May, the one that did quick turns in London and the crew used the airplane for hotel accomodations?

 

[750driver]

A friend of mine was the Chief Pilot in Hawthorne. Let's just say the job wasn't everything it was advertised to be. He eventually left for a better opportunity.

 

[LAZYB]

Roadie

...showcase, expose...

Pro Pilot does make one aware of the "operators" out there.

 

[Heavy Set]

Sorry if I offended anyone. I am aware of the more "general" reasons for the attrition (low pay and some work rules that don't agree with people) - but not any details or examples. Sure, people can always find better jobs, but leaving a Citation X or GIV position with a large, multinational company (reasonably stable...) would be a bit extreme - something really negative must be happening. I just want to get more of the details/examples - that's all.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

yeah, its "extreme" to leave a low paying, poor work rule job...???

I dont care how "large" and "multinational" you are...if you pay bad AND have $hit work rules...some of your folks will leave. You will be stuck with the very young and the very old....who cant go anywhere else.

I guess its not all that uncommon really..

unfortunatly..

 

[Otter]

I am going to agree with G-200. If you have no life, or worse, what life you have is horrible, I dont care what you are flying. You will leave.

 

[smellthejeta]

One of the guys I knew who left the XL at NG told me it had a lot to do with the work rules and how he felt the company $.05 and $.10'd their pilots. He actually went to a smaller aircraft. One thing with NG is that an upgrade (if possible) most likely means swithching domicilies. Their XL's out of PQL do fly a ton, their X's quite a bit, and the GIV, I'm not sure about.

 

[eCrewster]

Three NG Jobs

Gee, make me feel bad. I just posted three listings for Northrop Grumman jobs including the Director of Flight Ops. Is it really that bad? Yikes.

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