No DC base at Net Jets?

[FLYLOW22]

I'm curious what the nest contract is going to look like.

Likely it will be printed on white papger with black print and be at least 200 pages long. I think.



Sorry. Couln't resist.

Seriously,

The next CBA will look like what this pilot group settles for. The 1108 NJA MEC will determine what the important issues are for the pilot group using polling, etc. They will formulate a priority of the issues. The bargaining process will begin and the bargaining unit made up of the leadership, the membership, SPC (SC) and the NC will do it's job.

The more prepared the membership is mentally and financially for this reocuring struggle that occurs every 3-5 years, the better.

I almost laughed when another pilot said, "Thank God this contract is over and we can get back to the way things USED to be." I just suggested that if he didn't have the stomach for bargaining every 5 years, he seek a new company to work for.

 

[brokeflyer]

I find it humorous that a lot of people bitched and moanded about netjets before the contract....no one wanted to work there......now after the contract everyone bitches.......moral.....shoulda came here before the contract.

as long as people take the job they WILL NOT open more domiciles. You peope need to look elsewhere or bite the bullet until the next contract.

 

[Sparse]

Netjets version of the B scale. It will end up bighting them in the a$$. The domicile issue will either be solved as a result of company needs or bought by the pilots in the next contract.

 

[Diesel]

sparse you know this from what? Working here? I doubt that. But i'm sure with your background you'll explain it to me.

 

[Sparse]

sparse you know this from what? Working here? I doubt that. But i'm sure with your background you'll explain it to me.

Common Sense. You gave NJ something that only has an effect on future pilots. Those pilots will want it changed on your next contract. You will have spend negoatiating capital to get it back.

That is how the "B" scale went at the airlines.

And no I don't work there but contract negotiations are pretty universal in nature. NJ is not special.

I am not trying to start a fight, but everytime current employees give up something that only has an effect on future employees, you have the formula for animosity. I saw it happen at the airlines.

 

[Diesel]

Way to go you saw it at the airlines. I didn't realize the airlines paid for travel or are you just talking about pay. Which has no bearing on this conversation.

We fought extremely hard for the crew bases for the new hire pilots. If you do a search I refused to vote yes till new hires got what I have. What changed my mind? The company was willing to go to the mat to make sure that new hires did the domicile thing.

So what were the NJ pilots supposed to do. Stand in the way, and give up money for the bad idea that the line pilots and negotiators saw? Should we fix this company for the managment, because they can't figure out what we knew then? That the quality and number of pilots will go down to the point where they can't hire from the domiciles anymore and they will be FORCED to open them up.

When the negotiations open up and continue do you think the new hires will just give up on the domiciles? No way no how.

So its not a b scale, because a b scale would mean they are second class citizens which new hires are not.

 

[Sparse]

Woooo

I must have hit a nerve.

Maybe we should let a newhire that is driving 3 hours to TEB decide that.

 

[Diesel]

Well that new hire is more than welcome not to accept the job

But if they chose it I'm sure they'd be willing to fight hard for a change in the next contract.

Thats what is great about a union. We get to all vote.

 

[RTRHD]

Well that new hire is more than welcome not to accept the job

But if they chose it I'm sure they'd be willing to fight hard for a change in the next contract.

Thats what is great about a union. We get to all vote.

Sounds kida like a B scale. Haves, which really makes this job cool. Have nots, gotta drive or live in a high dollor area. To compound the matter they don't make as much because they are new. IMO of course.