NJA Airplane QOL

[lr23sic]

Which aircraft gives the best QOL at Netjets? I have been hearing the Citation 10 are flying alot?

Thanks
Tom

 

[DO-82 driver]

Not true at all......The X is the gentleman fleet. Shows at 9am and your day is usually over by 4:30pm....maybe 5pm. Just in time for happy hour.

The 400XP is the real Rented Mule here.

The XL's usually do about 2 or 3 legs a day...VFR only.

 

[Guitar Guy]

Remember those car commercials that harbor the little disclaimer at the end, "Your mileage may vary"? That seems to apply at NJA also. It can vary by tour and even the supposedly "busy" fleets can have crews that work harder than others. It depends on a lot of factors as to how busy any crew is on a given tour.

 

[Ultra Grump]

Seems to me, the more you bitch, the harder you work...

 

[RJ Bum]

How's the HS-800XP? I just got the call, will be out of PBI!!

 

[Fozzy]

Seems to me, the more you bitch, the harder you work...

Working to hard makes me fatigued.

 

[Guitar Guy]

How's the HS-800XP? I just got the call, will be out of PBI!!

NetJets actually has a rest waiver from the FAA for the 800XP. That means that the 800XP crews can be scheduled with a minimum of 8.5 hours of rest. I really don't know how those guys and gals put up with that.





Just kidding. Welcome to NJA and don't worry about the fleet-vs-QOL issue. Get through training and decide for yourself online.

 

[skyaddict]

I've only been here a year and a half but love it... well, compared to the regionals I certainly do. But it depends what you mean by QOL- different strokes for different folks.

Some people hate flying and love sitting hot spare as much as possible. Some hate long legs. Some hate short legs because it means too many turns. Yet all of these things vary not just by fleet but also time of the year, gateway or domicile location, and even luck of the draw on a tour. Plus, is it just me or are the schedulers are playing around lately with wierd schedules sometimes to fill in their super-duper computer program that is supposed to predict fatigue calls?

Coming from the regionals, it took me a bit of getting used to the short overnights (10-11 hours are routine), forcing one to ask for a 14 hour via a fatigue call if they get too carried away with that. Granted, no reduced rest like the airlines, but sitting around a long time on hot spare to fly at the end, or sitting around for hours after you fly a few hard legs, can get old. However, usually variety and luck of the draw intervenes for the better too, and you get a hotel day with no or a broken airplane, or a one leg day with a late checkin, or something, to make up for that here and there.

 

[xpdriver]

How's the HS-800XP? I just got the call, will be out of PBI!!

two or three legs a day...some long days some not...everyday is different,get ready////

 

[lr23sic]

Hey Guys thanks for all the great info, sounds like a great place to be...

Tom

 

[T-1GUY]

Just flew my second tour in the G-200. I love how different the flying is day to day. I had my first "sit at the FBO and rot" day. I flew one three hour leg and sat at the FBO for 8 hours. I have to say, that sucked hard. I hope it is few and far between. Otherwise, everything has been banker's hours. I worked much harder in the military, and I absolutely love the week off....

 

[johnsonrod]

How's the HS-800XP? I just got the call, will be out of PBI!!

Did you get the 800XP or the 800XP-C (Collins equipment)? Both are great airplanes but one has more glass than the other.

You should get some great variety in that aircraft because it can fly relatively far as well as be used on shorter trips throughout the Northeast, etc.

 

[skiandsurf]

On the "X". Just finished a 7 day trip.

16 flights (9 w/pax), 33 flight hours.
23 total pax.
No transcons.
2 canadian overnights.
1 carribean overnight.
Airline on first and last day to Domicile.
1 day of airport rot. after 2 flights, rot for 4 hrs.
Home on day 7 in time to pick up kids from school.

 

[RNObased]

Just flew my second tour in the G-200. I love how different the flying is day to day. I had my first "sit at the FBO and rot" day. I flew one three hour leg and sat at the FBO for 8 hours. I have to say, that sucked hard. I hope it is few and far between. Otherwise, everything has been banker's hours. I worked much harder in the military, and I absolutely love the week off....

If you don't like FBO rot, stay away from the 400xp. That thing is the king of the FBO rot.

 

[RJ Bum]

Just kidding. Welcome to NJA and don't worry about the fleet-vs-QOL issue. Get through training and decide for yourself online.

You're right, just getting a bit anxious. BTW, thanks again about the info you gave me about a year ago (I doubt you remember) it really helped my decision.

 

[RJ Bum]

two or three legs a day...some long days some not...everyday is different,get ready////

That sounds good to me, different is good.

 

[RJ Bum]

Did you get the 800XP or the 800XP-C (Collins equipment)? Both are great airplanes but one has more glass than the other.

You should get some great variety in that aircraft because it can fly relatively far as well as be used on shorter trips throughout the Northeast, etc.

Actually not sure. I believe the 800XP with the Honeywell setup. The paper work had HS-800XP on it. Is that the Honeywell?

 

[acaTerry]

400XP...2 statuses...broken or performance limited...lotsa FBO miles!

 

[hydrarkt]

As someone who has flown the Ultra, X and now the XL, I must say that if you have a choice, choose the XL. DO NOT choose the X!!! The days in the X are longer. The time in the cockpit is MUCH longer and your rest time is shorter. The cockpit is smaller than the XL, though not by much. IT's a cool airplane but that wears off fast. In the XL you'll get differences pay and your legs are a lot shorter. I feel much better at the end of a day flying the XL than I did in the X.

 

[johnsonrod]

How's life in the G200 fleet? That seems like a comfortable aircraft up front that also provides some good variety (short flights and transcon) with some international or Hawaii. Sounds like a good fleet - do G200 pilots fly a lot?

Also, when do you expect the Hawker 4000 to come on line?