Newbe to the MU-2

[MerlinIVC]

Possible job babysitting owner in mu2. any advice about airplane, where to find checklist,flight manual prior to school? thank-you very much!!

 

[HS125]

any advice about airplane,

Don't walk away, Run away from this job. If you don't have any experience in the airplane, then you have no business babysitting a new owner who has no experience in the airplane. This aiplane is not an airplane for pilots without considerable flight experience and proper training. Two low time in type pilots in this airplane, are just as or more dangerous than one low time in type pilot.

Do a little search on this board about the MU2 and a little research on the history of the airplane.

 

[launchn]

There is nothing wrong with the MU-2! If you are going to "babysit" though; be sure to get the right training. And make sure you get enough time on your own!

I started flying turbines in a corporate configured Metro II. The Mits is far more capable than the Metro could ever dream to be. If you've been flying the MerlinIV then I think the MU-2 will put a smile on your face.

I have an extra Simcom training book but it is for the Solitaire, Marquise, N, P models. Which model are you planning on flying?

Take a look at the FAA web site for the latest review. This separates the unfounded comments from reality. You will find all the congressman's letters (which seem to be just copied form letters) and you will find over 140 different letters from real Mits pilots. The final report is there too.
http://www.faa.gov/aircraft/air_cert/design_approvals/small_airplanes/cos/mu2_foia_reading_library/

Good luck

 

[Diesel]

How can you babysit someone if you don't know anything yourself.

If the guy wants someone to get the plane ready, file flight plans and fuel it so he can jump in it and fly and then you shut it down call it that.

 

[GVFlyer]

Deus vobiscum.

 

[mobie]

Should be Deus Avertat !!
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[ultrarunner]

Possible job babysitting owner in mu2. any advice about airplane, where to find checklist,flight manual prior to school? thank-you very much!!

You got an underwriter to buy this???

Or is the planes owner not even carry liability?

 

[MerlinIVC]

Thank-you

thank-you for all your replies.

 

[wolfpackpilot]

I agree with HS. This plane has issues! I wouldn't touch it. But if your going to do it, get with that guy in TN who specializes in them.

 

[GVFlyer]

Should be Deus Avertat !!
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"God Forbid." Funny!


GV

 

[Say Again Over]

babysitting

The Mits is far more capable than the Metro could ever dream to be.

Spoken like the truly inexperienced . I have lots of Solitaire, Marquise and other Mits experience and it certainly does not have anymore capability than a Merlin, but I also wouldn't recommend that you take a job "babysitting" in this aircraft unless you have professional training, if you had no experience in a Lear Jet would you babysit someone else flying in it? You need more than a glance in the FOM to be safe, just my 2 cents.

 

[launchn]

Spoken like the truly inexperienced . I have lots of Solitaire, Marquise and other Mits experience and it certainly does not have anymore capability than a Merlin, but I also wouldn't recommend that you take a job "babysitting" in this aircraft unless you have professional training, if you had no experience in a Lear Jet would you babysit someone else flying in it? You need more than a glance in the FOM to be safe, just my 2 cents.

Ok "Mr. Experience". Can the Solitaire fly higher than the Metro II? Yes!
Can the Solitaire land shorter than the Metro II? Yes!
Can the Solitaire take off shorter than the Metro II? Yes!
Is the Solitaire Faster than the Metro II? Yes!
Can the Solitaire fly Farther than the Metro II? Yes!

I think that Experience has failed you in your comparisons.

 

[Say Again Over]

I'm sorry, it's unfair to pick on someone that has little Merlin experience (SA227) and little MU-2 time, I've flown all Merlin / Metro aircraft and MU-2 experience includes the J, G, N, P, Marquise and Solitaire, my opinion still is that the Merlin is twice the aircraft of your Solitaire.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Im MY expert opinion they are both old Piece of $hits....and there isn't enough money on Earth to be a babysitter for an MU2 owner.

how bout that?

 

[Rick1128]

The MU2 and Merlin fall into a group of aircraft like the Mooney and the Aerostar that has a small group that loves them and a large group that hates them and there is nothing in between. Personally I do not like the MU-2, but I only have a few hours in them. They do require a bit better than average pilot ability. I have flown the SA226 and 227 in various forms. And I enjoyed flying the aircraft. Especially the Metro 3, the Merlin 3C and the Metro 2's with the -10 upgrade. It also requires better than averge pilot ability. In fact, it has been my experience when I was doing training for previous employers, that pilots who were upgrading into the Lear 24/25 had a much easier time of it, if they had previous MU2 or Metro/Merlin time.

The MU2 does have some quirks you need to be aware of. Primary of which is that you do not raise the low wing. you lower the high wing. It takes awhile to get used to that.

As for a babysitting job, I wouldn't do that in anything. You do all the work, put your name on the flight plan, and try to keep the guy from getting you killed, damaged, injuried or violated, Or all the above. NO THANK YOU!

 

[launchn]

The MU2 and Merlin fall into a group of aircraft like the Mooney and the Aerostar that has a small group that loves them and a large group that hates them and there is nothing in between. Personally I do not like the MU-2, but I only have a few hours in them. They do require a bit better than average pilot ability. I have flown the SA226 and 227 in various forms. And I enjoyed flying the aircraft. Especially the Metro 3, the Merlin 3C and the Metro 2's with the -10 upgrade. It also requires better than averge pilot ability. In fact, it has been my experience when I was doing training for previous employers, that pilots who were upgrading into the Lear 24/25 had a much easier time of it, if they had previous MU2 or Metro/Merlin time.

Finally a voice of reason. Well said.

 

[someguy]

Normally I sit back and read these posts as entertainment, however, this is a topic that I just cannot resist chiming in on. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the MU2, period! The simple fact of the matter is that it is a very unique airplane in more than one aspect. The bottom line is that it is very unforgiving. It's a high performance turbine that is relatively inexpensive and is popular among the owner/operators. Generally, this is a bad combination. This is a major contributing factor leading to the bad reputation that this airplane has received. In my humble opinion, somebody with no experience in the airplane has absolutely no business babysitting somebody else - regardless of the training. Train at Howell Enterprises in Smyrna, TN. and let one of their instructors do the babysitting!

 

[HS125]

Deus vobiscum.

Deus Vobiscum

Latin for God be with you.

Appropriate! :laugh:

 

[HS125]

Im MY expert opinion they are both old Piece of $hits....and there isn't enough money on Earth to be a babysitter for an MU2 owner.

how bout that?

Direct, to the point and said with conviction, I like it.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

You probably don't want to get mixed up in that situation if you have no real time the plane. It has very tempermental handling chracteristics when you lose an engine in it. As another poster mentioned, do a search of mu-2 accidents...you'll find a lot.