New UAL Pay Rates Posted

[767-300ER]

Just posted them, as well as updated the narrowbody/widebody hourly comparison at www.airlinepilotpay.com.

 

[JetMonkey]

Holly tortilla, my LCC probationary pay is more than a United's first year.....wait a second....there isn't any over there, never mind.

 

[pilotyip]

USA Jet pay

WOW! a UAL 777 12 yr Capt has a lower rate than a USA Jet DC-9 Captain.

 

[banned username 2]

WOW! a UAL 777 12 yr Capt has a lower rate than a USA Jet DC-9 Captain.

Yes, but does a USA Jet DC-9 Captain get paid for as many hours as the UAL 777 Capt??? I kinda doubt it...

 

[FracCapt]

Wow....that's all I can say....long gone are the days of making decent wages in aviation. Max of $125k a year for 737/A320 Captains, and $145k for 757/767 Captains?

I don't fly 121...but I think you guys are limited to 1,000 hours a year, correct? That's what I'm basing those figures on, anyways.

 

[750driver]

I don't fly 121...but I think you guys are limited to 1,000 hours a year, correct? That's what I'm basing those figures on, anyways.

Correct FracCapt

 

[IAHERJ]

1,000 hours a year is the max you can fly. That doesn't mean you can only be paid for 1,000 hours. For instance, next week I end a 2 day trip with one 1.5 hour leg but get paid 4 hours per the contract. You should add in about 12% for duty rigs/min day/vacation pay etc. to the above listed annual salaries plus another 6,000 for per diem and you will get a better annual #.


IAHERJ

 

[XGmaninGA]

Don't forget the best part, getting 1.5 times normal pay for volunteering when they are desperate to cover flying. This adds quite a bit to your pay credit. It's not what you fly, it's your pay credit that counts.

 

[IADBLRJ41]

What I think is really sad here is that United's CEO Tilton said that United employee's will make fair market wages.. Well MR. Tilton your 320 drivers are making 2nd to last in pay out of anyone!!

Where is the bottom here?

 

[ATA73Pilot]

Sheesh....I still remember that morning in SFO a few years ago reading the headline in the USA Today...something about UAL settling thier contract and being the highest paid pilots in the industry.

Every other airline pilot spokesman interviewed was getting all damp about the prospect of all the other salaries getting caught in the same upswell.

Hard to believe it was only a few years ago.

 

[IADBLRJ41]

Met a 12 year UAL guy, flew the 320 right now at a New Years party...no wonder he was drinking so heavily...

No doubt!!! Well said!!

 

[capt. megadeth]

What I think is really sad here is that United's CEO Tilton said that United employee's will make fair market wages.. Well MR. Tilton your 320 drivers are making 2nd to last in pay out of anyone!!

Where is the bottom here?

Yeah....I am sure the scumbag CEO is making a fair market wage too...huh?

 

[Cardinal]

YGBSM. Frontier makes more in every seat, every year on comparable equipment! One has to be a senior widebody FO to break into triple-digits. WN's FO's hit 100 by year 4.

UA and US management more than got their wish, labor costs aren't comparable to WN their lower. The pilots are "living in a van, down by the river." Now whose fault is it that they're both still hemorrahging cash?

 

[pilotyip]

DA guy, you can only fly 1000 a year, 100 hours a month. A number of DC-9 Capts were in the 100K plus range, topped at 125K

 

[FL717]

DA guy, you can only fly 1000 a year, 100 hours a month. A number of DC-9 Capts were in the 100K plus range, topped at 125K

I think the point is/was that Flight time versus Pay Credit can and typically are very different at many carriers. For example, I only flew 600 hours in 2004, but I got paid over 1000 hours. But your original post is very poignant, and that is the horrible current "hourly" pay rates for United Pilots. What a travesty.... by anyones standard.

BTW - pilotyip - I cannot find the USAJet Pilot payscale on pilotpay.com. Would you forward those scales to that webmaster, who happens to be the person who started this thread.

 

[767-300ER]

I cannot find the USAJet Pilot payscale on pilotpay.com. Would you forward those scales to that webmaster, who happens to be the person who started this thread.

I'll post USAJet pay rates just as soon as someone forwards them! Also needing Ameriflight...

 

[G550Driver]

(THINKING TO MYSELF)

Wow, when I got layed off from the airlines I was really bummed. Ten years in the military, 3 years at a Major regional and I thought my career was over.

Now after looking at those new pay rates I am very lucky that I got layed off early and was lucky enough to get on with a Fortune 500 company. At first this Corporate flying gig was an adjustment but now I like it much better. In fact I got a Christmas bonus, Yearly bonus and I have a pretty good retirement program. I even got a Christmas ham with a card hand signed by our CEO.

Now hopefully our stock doesn't go down and we sell the Aviation department.

 

[SWA/FO]

Over 100 K 3rd year at SWA. I know someone that did it in year 2.

 

[DornierPilot]

Shocking!

At least the Captains at Independence will be making more on the A-320 (at the MAX rate) than the UAL Captains will be!

What is wrong with this picture??

Why wouldn't USAir and UAL just fight for the same as Southwest, at this point? Do they need to be that much lower in order to compete with the LCC's? Can you say HUGE Management bonuses if these two carriers stay alive and start making money again!!!!

It's a very sad day for these two pilot groups and it's an absolutely frightening turn of events for everyone that has the dream of a decent career as a pilot.

Make no mistake, these issues will affect all pilots, pax or cargo.

 

[Ty Webb]

DA guy, you can only fly 1000 a year, 100 hours a month. A number of DC-9 Capts were in the 100K plus range, topped at 125K

With all due respect, YIP, what someone would have to do to make $125K flying for USA Jet and what someone has to do at an LCC or Legacy carrier are worlds apart! Your guys are on a 20 minute call-out, have to be willing to leave at a moment's notice for god-knows-where, and stay there for god-knows-how-long.

To make $125K at these other places involves showing up for three or four days a week and flying pairings that you bid on and had an opportunity to change, drop, trade, etc. In other words, having a life, living where you want, and being able to relax, knowing that if the phone rings, it is up to you to decide if you want to answer it or not . . . . . . priceless.