New DCI rumor!

[PA-44Typed]

I herd form a friend that Guldstreem was getting old ASA Emb-120s and going to fly them around Florida under DCI. Has anyone else herd this?
Just curious

 

[DrinkSweetTea]

ZZZZZzzz......Old (false) Rumor, you're really gonna have to do better!

 

[jaybird]

No, I think it's partly true. In the union magazine there was a little blurb about Delta looking into 120's for Gulfscream.

 

[General Lee]

It might be smarter financially to use E120s intra Florida rather than Chataqua E135s-----and those can be used elsewhere I am sure......I also hope they don't use PFT on the Gulfstream E120s---but I wouldn't be surprised....

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[jaybird]

It might be smarter financially to use E120s intra Florida rather than Chataqua E135s-----and those can be used elsewhere I am sure......I also hope they don't use PFT on the Gulfstream E120s---but I wouldn't be surprised....

Bye Bye--General Lee

Yes, but I'm sure the passengers won't be happy about going back to props.

 

[ataopsdave]

I herd form a friend that Guldstreem was getting old ASA Emb-120s and going to fly them around Florida under DCI. Has anyone else herd this?
Just curious

I heard the same. I went to Gulfstream to get my ratings and I have a a few friends that did the program and thy said they should be online by this summer

 

[anon]

Aren't there several unsold ASA E-120's still in Arkansas?

Perhaps DAL is looking at these unsellable liabilities and trying to figure out a way to put them to work.

I wonder what it would cost to bring them up to standards. The good ones sold pretty early ... I would think the remaining airframes would be pretty ragged out by now.

Brasilia's and PFT new hires ... better be careful out there...

 

[jaybird]

Aren't there several unsold ASA E-120's still in Arkansas?

Perhaps DAL is looking at these unsellable liabilities and trying to figure out a way to put them to work.

I wonder what it would cost to bring them up to standards. The good ones sold pretty early ... I would think the remaining airframes would be pretty ragged out by now.

Brasilia's and PFT new hires ... better be careful out there...

Didn't a low time FO and new CA burn up two EMB 120 Engins at ASA and they couldn't get insurance for low time hires after that.

 

[sweptback]

Why on earth would DCI want to pretty much give (I'm sure whatever they could "sell" them for would basically be nothing) a bunch of E-120s to a contract carrier to do the same thing that they were replaced from a few years ago?

Wasn't there some big AD on the fleet that caused ASA to speed their retirement? And what about RVSM? I doubt Gulfstream would want to pay for that.

If this worked though, just think of the whipsaw opportunities! "Why should we pay you guys any more than 19.02/hr when we have a whole crop of guys ready and willing to drop tens of thousands for the privilege of being a 121 FO for a few months?"

 

[DrinkSweetTea]

I wonder if they would PFT flight attendants?! Surely no one would sign up for that...

 

[SizzleChest]

I would sign up for that... and don't call me Shirley

 

[~~~^~~~]

Didn't a low time FO and new CA burn up two EMB 120 Engins at ASA and they couldn't get insurance for low time hires after that.

Not true. ASA does not have "insurance." ASA's coverage is administered through Delta's risk management program. You can call USAIG in Atlanta if you are curious, but they might not talk to you.

Pretty much all airlines have open pilot warranties that list all pilots approved by the Company are approved by the Insurer. In other words, coverage might not apply to a Piper Cub pilot flying without a medical, but my aunt Mabel could taxi a 777 into B Concourse and believe you me, Delta would be covered....

 

[wms]

Why on earth would DCI want to pretty much give (I'm sure whatever they could "sell" them for would basically be nothing) a bunch of E-120s to a contract carrier to do the same thing that they were replaced from a few years ago?

Then the passengers would only get mad 30 at a time.

Wasn't there some big AD on the fleet that caused ASA to speed their retirement? And what about RVSM? I doubt Gulfstream would want to pay for that.

As far as I know the ADs are current, and RVSM is for above FL290. The E120 was rarely flown higher than that.

 

[jborsdrf]

The Teamster's pilot newsletter "Flight deck quarterly" mentioned this briefly (Gulfstream is Teamsters represented). But it sounded as though Gulfstream was in talks to purchase EMB120s rather than fly them for Delta. Any other teamsters see this?