My commercial written expired

[JimNtexas]

I passed the commercial written test a little over 2 years ago and haven't done the flying. I understand I need to retake the written test if I want the rating.

My question is, do I have to get another instructor endorsement to take the test, or can retake just based on the original endorsement?


Editorial rant: I was completely disappointed in the commercial written. There seemed to virtually nothing related to commercial flying in it. Tons of rehashed PPL questions, those ridiculous triangle problems (you are on the xxx radial, how can you determine the distance to the station by wasting gas flying a triangle instead of just flying to the station so that you would know where you were) , and a bunch of other silliness. Almost nothing about Parts 121/135. What a waste of time, but I have to take it again. Sigh.

 

[Jedi_Cheese]

The old endorsement is still good.

 

[flyingfcuk]

The old endorsement is still good.

Does that also apply to the Instrument written? What if the proctor kept the endorsement, would a CFII-signed Part 61 diploma suffice?

 

[dmspilot00]

would a CFII-signed Part 61 diploma suffice?

??There is no such thing. At least not to the FAA.

 

[flyingfcuk]

??There is no such thing. At least not to the FAA.

What I meant by "diploma" was simply a certificate of achievement presented to me on completing his ground school, and which basically has the same language as appeared on the original endorsement. Or would the expired Airman Test Report itself qualify me for a retake?

 

[Jedi_Cheese]

If it reads exactly like the endorsement and has all the required parts (CFII number, exp date, signature, ect) I would assume that it is good. As far as I know, it isn't where it is written, it is how it is written. Thing is that most part 61 diplomas don't have the CFI number and the expiration date and thus aren't valid to take the test.

If you wanted, you could do flight training out of a three ring binder with looseleaf (I don't think there are any requirements that define logbook). It may look ghetto but if it gets you the certificate you want, screw how it looks.

I don't know if the expired test is sufficient to retake the test because I think part 141 ground certificates expire after a set amount of time (don't quote me on that one). Call up the testing center that you plan on going to and ask a few questions over the phone.

 

[mizzouguy]

Make sure you bring your expired test results with you when you take the test

 

[avbug]

Your instructor should have endorsed your log book, as he or she is required to do. A copy of this endorsement will suffice.