more NWA 70 seat RJ stuff

[nwaredtail]

More details for all the drooling regional folks out there:

The NWA MEC sent out an email basically saying the in order to keep the mainline flying, we have to give up 70 seaters. Big surprise huh. Promises of mainline flying bigger RJ's (90 seaters) basically just sugar to make the medicine go down.

36- 70 seat RJ's to replace AVRO's, bidders in contention, PNCL (not likely from NWA VP), Mesaba ( bid was way high unless they get the paycuts) and Mesa. Bid was supposidely 14% lower than the lowest. Obvious here say, just repeating what I was told.

Up to 50 more, with ratios for mainline and replacement of 50 seaters.

some sort of deal were furloughed mainline guys have to get the right to fly CAptain of any plane bought initially by NWA, yadda yadda yadda. sound familiar, US AIR, Midatlantic?

 

[COpilot]

But the NWA guys flying the DC9's have jobs, "right"?

No part of the pilot group is going to hang them out, "are they"?

Same story different paint job. And yes this is a form of flame bait, I'll admit it. It's so sad to see everyone, (my group included) with what appears to be no option but to bend over. Every industry downturn, sacrifice the Jr. people on the seniority list. And say "well son, your not a real airline pilot tell your furloughed". Or now days, at least; "you can get a "soft landing" at $50/hr.

Best of luck to those.

 

[YourPilotFriend]

Agreed, any pilots at the top should make out ok, the bottom of the regionals will be ok eventually, and the pilots in the middle argggggggggggh.

 

[JohnDoe]

Yep, that "across the table" they just emailed out is a peek at the up-and-coming sell-out of scope and the jobs at the bottom that go with them. It was a look at a mid-atlantic j4j scenario all the way.

They should title it "across the bow," as in shot across the bow.

 

[ExAF]

Att

Is is just me or does the ATT that the NWA MEC sent out sound like they are about to sell the farm. Well, if not the farm then at least the bottom 1500 or so pilots.uke:

 

[shon7]

Is is just me or does the ATT that the NWA MEC sent out sound like they are about to sell the farm. Well, if not the farm then at least the bottom 1500 or so pilots.uke:

What is the other option for the senior guys. Go on strike. Shut down the airline. Wipe out the pension. Then join a regional or an LCC at the bottom of the payscale and work their way back to a Captains position. Yeah -- that's gonna happen.

 

[FDJ2]

Has anyone seen the TA?

 

[Lear70]

There isn't a T.A. They're still negotiating daily but can't close the gap on the last aspects of Scope and other issues.

And redtail, don't lump all the regional guys in as "drooling" over 70-seaters. I personally (and most of the guys and gals I fly with at PCL) couldn't give a rat's a*s if we EVER see anything bigger than a 50-seater here or at Mesaba.

We understand perfectly well that RJ's here means less movement into mainline jobs eventually.

Additionally, most of us who can are bailing for jetBlue, AirTran, Southwest, FedEx, UPS, and NetJets.

Might want to adjust your beliefs on the "Evil Regional Pilot Scheme to take your jobs" you got going there... The enemy is management, not other pilots.

 

[81Horse]

The enemy is management, not other pilots.

Amen. Though other pilots run a close second.

Shoo, shon.