More FLOPS CEO BS.

[jetwash]

http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/03/state_tax_breaks_leaving_compe.html

 

[Guitar Guy]

Didn't MS just send out a letter to pilots warning of pilot furloughs? And yet, in that article you posted, he says that FLOPS is going to grow by 50% in 4 years.

 

[208starcheck]

Does this guy only know how to follow? Sounds like he is mad because he didn't think of the tax incentive trick first.

 

[Galaxy]

I love it when it says his company has GROWN to 550 pilots. Wasnt it almost double that after the merger? Ha-Mike you crack me up.

 

[netjetwife]

Good point, GG! Additionally, MS is demanding parity from Ohio while he denies it to his pilots... To make matters worse, he is insisting on the same treatment given to NJA, who is adding new jobs while under MS Flt Ops is threatening to reduce jobs. Yet this losing-streak CEO sees nothing wrong with underpaying Options pilots who are doing essentially the same job that NJ pilots do. Not only is the man a liar, he also operates under a double-standard of denying parity to the very pilots that helped to build the business.

Parity for Options pilots is a fairness issue. The double standard/hypocrite CEO needs to get the black boot.

 

[Frac Cap]

Bravo! Good post NJW! He tells us we will be shrinking, but he tells Ohio we will be 50% bigger in 4 years. What is he bi-polar?

 

[Ticker]

What is he bi-polar?

I'd lay odds he's BI-SOMETHING !! :laugh:

 

[Hobbes]

Flops was up to a peak of 980 pilots on the seniority list before the chief bumbler came along with his pet monkey.

 

[netjetwife]

Thanks FC. If the FLOPS managed the company right their chances of growth would be good, given demand for the service. So it seems clear that he's lying to the pilots. FUD is a typical management response when workers organize their collective efforts to obtain a contract. The Options pilots are doing a good job dodging it and staying focused on the reality that they are being denied industry standard wages and fair work rules.

Hobbs, the attrition problem is a fact that can't be hidden at the bargaining table and your experienced negotiating team will be quick to offer a solution that will stop the downhill slide. The MS chickens (bad decisions) are coming home to roost and their message is loud and clear...time to settle. Time to settle. Pressure is mounting, guys! Dig in your heels and hold your ground.

 

[Guitar Guy]

Hey, NJW, I'm guessing you're also curious as to what MS thinks he needs incentives and cooperation from the state for. RTS is planning to build a full-on campus with training and ops co-located. With RTS saying that the number of new jobs, 810, was certainly less than what would ultimately be created, there was great incentive for the city and state to get involved.

But MS, what plans does he have for an incentive package that would directly affect FLOPS and create additional jobs and revenue for the state? Honestly, MS sounds like a whiny little child who attends someone else's birthday party and wants to get presents, too.

Definitely give him the black boot...

 

[ProFracPilot]

Frankly, Sheeringa is an embarrassement to our owners, his employees and to the fractional industry. I can't believe H.I.G. hasn't, at the very least, gagged him. Personally I think we're watching a CEO in the death throes of his tenure. Time will tell if he takes the whole company with him.

 

[netjetwife]

GG, you're right. Inquiring minds do want to know! And the Ohio tax payers have the right to ask. MS needs to put the money where his mouth is and concentrate on keeping the workers that are holding Options together before they, like others before them, depart for greener pastures.

Pro, you nailed it. Like minds think alike... Before I settled on the chickens roosting analogy I deleted one about embarrassing circus acts by the chief bumbler. I left that one to you guys closer to the action. Or should I say fall-out... That said, surely HIG won't let MS ruin their new investment and cause them additional embarrassment when a black boot and a fair contract will solve the problem to everyone's benefit.

 

[Hobbes]

I DEMAND that you go back and edit your post to spell my name correctly with the "E!"

Haha....I love your support NJW. I think our MEC and collective leadership and council are brilliant...I really do. In a different world, I would be so into fighting this fight as long as needed, but I think I will be pulling my E handle soon, like so many others.

 

[netjetwife]

Ooops...:0 Sorry. Different Hobbs, ( a female) different conversation, with another pilot. I guess I don't multi-task as well as you guys... I'd edit it gladly if I could, Hobbes with an "e"... but the format doesn't allow it. The support I offer is well deserved, but I appreciate the compliment.

While it's regrettable, it's also entirely understandable that Options pilots are being driven away by the FLOPS. So many have already left that the truth of their mismanagement is staring them in the face. The attrition rate has delivered a message that is so loud it can no longer be ignored. You know it's not a coincidence that they've agreed (finally) to meet more often. You guys have withstood the intimidation and FUD dumped on you by the FLOPS so it stands to reason that they'll get serious now about hammering out a contract. Best Wishes, NJW

 

[Hobbes]

So a friend of mine forwarded me this poll today...

http://www.polldaddy.com/poll.aspx?p=456808

Where will Mikey land?

 

[Publishers]

Actually the most informative thing here was the comment section which said why should either of these companies get a break.
NJW always wants to go off on the tangent of labor but the basic argument of this article and in general is should public tax money be spent on these type of companies. The job creation deal is pretty lame as in this type business, the money does not get spent back in the community like a new Fischer body plant would. The whole things speaks more of Netjets political savy than of any substantive economic base and has absolutely nothing to do with the pilot labor force. In fact, if it had been made clear that some of these 810 jobs that were being created were for pilots, it would not have been received as well. Netjets pulled the tried and true, we are going to leave play, and it worked. Ohio has always had a very aggressive Department of Development as have the city and state administrations. When I was in charge of the hub construction for flying Tigers at Rickenbacker, the county made what I as a resident at the time, would consider the worst deal I have ever seen a public agency contribute to. The only saving grace was the purchase by Fedex meant the thing would never operate as intended which actually benefited the county.

 

[realityman]

Actually Publishers, NJA contributes quite a bit to the local economy. In fact, I was at the big broohaha in CMH when the announcement was made. All the politicos, plus RTS, were happy to stand up and trumpet the $600M (yes, that number is correct!) that NJA pumps into the LOCAL economy every year.

I agree, it was a good political move on NJA's part, and really wasn't labor related. But in the end, it should benefit everybody.

 

[shanes123]

Has anyone contacted this reporter to expose Sh*tfingers lies? how about sending a copy of the letter he sent out to the employees about the downturn in Business jet travel

 

[Publishers]

I certainly was not saying that they did not pump money into the local economy but most of these things are based on job creation and that is where most of them fail the local test when it comes to pilots versus an industrial plant or even an aircraft plant. Skilled high pay jobs that live in the area. Let's not forget how much of that number might be fuel and maintenance parts, etc../ This is not to say that when applying for the money everyone stretches the number a bit. The prestige of having a Buffett company goes a long way too as well as the fact that this community has put money into EJA before.
As to Shanes comment, you can call it what you want but there may be no more truth in that than in the EJM numbers. Even if the business was going into the toliet, are you going to tell the D of D that when you are looking for money for your company.
Take all this for what it is, politics, no reality necessary on either side.

 

[AeroBoy]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Santulli pledge to give all of the incentive money back to the community (not the government, but to universities, nonprofit groups, etc)?

 

[theskyking]

I don't think he said he would "give" it all back. I think he said it would come back to the community. Sounded like more of a PR spin on the money and how it would help the local economy and community by giving it to NJA. I could be wrong, but that was my take on what he said.

 

[shanes123]

I think he said you can give it to me and Warren or that Idiot Sh*tfinger in Cleveland..You decide were you will get a better return!! Net Jets got it. Guess that about sums it up

 

[netjetwife]

In those circumstances it is generally understood that the money put into the workers' pockets will find its way back into the local economy as the newly hired use it to purchase goods and services within the community. As for the university connection, any large employer in an area holds interest for graduating students entering the job market. Those that reach out to students are valued even more. NJA deserves credit for their contribution to the local economy and for their reputation as a good employer. Sky and Shane are both right.

 

[AeroBoy]

Ah, just good PR spin, then. Thx.