MK Airlines: "Crew fatigue cited in 2004 Halifax plane crash"

[big_al]

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2006/06/29/mkairlines-tsb.html

Why dont they recommend these companies stop pushing their pilots to the limits by being awake for 20+ hours?

Instead:

Investigators are recommending that aviation regulators in Canada, the United States and Europe require transport planes to carry a device that would alert pilots when there's insufficient thrust to become airborne.

 

[doh]

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2006/06/29/mkairlines-tsb.html

Why dont they recommend these companies stop pushing their pilots to the limits by being awake for 20+ hours?

Instead:

Investigators are recommending that aviation regulators in Canada, the United States and Europe require transport planes to carry a device that would alert pilots when there's insufficient thrust to become airborne.

Recommend? Governments ORDER people to do things all the time. They cold take care of this with a pen stroke, and yet they allow the slaughter to continue.

 

[SDCFI]

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2006/06/29/mkairlines-tsb.html

Why dont they recommend these companies stop pushing their pilots to the limits by being awake for 20+ hours?

Instead:

Investigators are recommending that aviation regulators in Canada, the United States and Europe require transport planes to carry a device that would alert pilots when there's insufficient thrust to become airborne.

Sounds like there was such a device on board. The "flight computer", or FMS I presume. You know what they say, "garbage in garbage out." They were tired and put the wrong numbers in. Had they put in the correct info they would have know they were too heavy to T/O or they at least would have gotten accurate thrust settings and V-speeds. Pilot fatigue was cited as a major factor in AAL's crash at LIT. What came of that? Nothing. Everytime pilots ask for rest-rule changes the airlines cry about having to hire more pilots and getting less productivity which = more spending, so the gov backs off. Very sad.

 

[Draginass]

The FAA's job is not to promote safety. It's to promote aviation. The FAA can't even get the rules they have to agree. For instance, there are crew rest rules for pilots on domestic reserve, but NONE, ZERO, for crews on international reserve. Intl crews are available 24 hours a day while on reserve.

 

[27 driver]

The FAA's job is not to promote safety. It's to promote aviation. The FAA can't even get the rules they have to agree. For instance, there are crew rest rules for pilots on domestic reserve, but NONE, ZERO, for crews on international reserve. Intl crews are available 24 hours a day while on reserve.

Don't you know that when you are international that you don't get tired, hence you don't need any duty times. DUH

 

[cr7driver]

I believe that MK airlines only operates 747 classics. I do not know how they are configured; but at my airline the loadmaster inputs the weights into the computer and hands that weight and balance data to the flight engineer who in turn computes EPR and speed settings for that weight. The crosscheck occours after the speed cards are handed to the pilots who verify correct computations based on that printed weight and balance against the speed cards. Maybe there should be a crosscheck procedure for the loadmasters as well? Any ideas??

 

[federico]

Its all about Money. Restrictive Duty equals more crews. With out these inmoral duty regs for international 121 supp the ACMI can not compete with the foreign carriers.