Minneasota Corparate Jobs?

[EV120]

I am currently employed as a CL-65 Captain with a large regional, and I am thinking about leaving to pursue a corporate job either in Minneapolis or somewhere in MN.

Does anyone know of any openings? Looking for more time with the family, and am sick of commuting.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Country Wild]

Be careful what you do, you could be jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire. There is no job protection in the corporate environment, no union to help or hinder depending on the situation. Once you walk away from your current position you will never be able to return, especially if it is Comair or ASA. Think real hard. If you should ever come interview in front of me I would wonder why you left your airline job and why should I hire you, since you bailed on your last airline job. This is not the time to be lookling for flying jobs.

Have a Happy New Year

 

[banned username 2]

There is no job protection in the corporate environment

These days don't look like the airlines offer much job protection either...

You gotta do what makes you happy...

 

[h25b]

I personally left a great regional job for corporate and have never regretted it in the least. I am home more nights by far (about 3 RON's a month), fly newer equipment, I don't commute (o.k. 5 minute drive to the hangar), I work about 15 days a month, etc..., etc...

It all depends on the person. This person just might not be the "Airline" type person. There's definately pros and cons to each end, but I can definately sympathize with his plight. If he's not happy at his regional, he's in big trouble because there's not a whole lot of upward movement going on for the foreseeable future. Maybe finding a good corporate job would be a great solution.

I am just saying that the airlines are not his only option. By looking at country wild's bio he's obviously had a good career in the airlines, but Falcon Capt's certainly correct. Over a career there's definately no more job security in the airlines... As for having no union... That's certainly is debateable....

 

[reepicheep]

I am looking to "walk away" from my airline position with US Airways (it they don't furlough me or liquidate first!) and the insecurity of pax. airline companies is a big factor. If you got hired by the right airline at the right time you can sail through an awesome career, but for most of us the reality is it's a very tenuous existence. If you lose your job or your airline tanks there's no such thing as anything close to a "lateral" move; you start all over again - if you find a job.

The attraction for corporate or Part 135 flying is that once you establish yourself then to some extent you have the ability to go out and sell yourself. Sure, no union to back you but the flip side is no union seniority system to hinder you; you can go as far as your ability to sell yourself takes you.

Another big factor is if you live in a market like So Cal or the northeast you have the ability to stay put; you're not at the whim of airline marketing departments that may close your domicile and force you to move or commute 1,000 miles.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Be careful what you do, you could be jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire. There is no job protection in the corporate environment,

yeah, stick with all that protection the airlines are providing these days! Got news for ya, there is no job protection in this industry whatsoever, but corporate is sure looking better than the airline environment right about now.

No Union to protect you in the corporate enviornment??

Ask most corporate guys, they are very thankful for this fact!!

All I can suggest is that you have an OK flying job these days, dont leave it until the next thing is a DEFINITE! Its always easier to job search when you are currently employed! Good corporate jobs are not found overnight, they are usually the result of contacts made over many years.

Good Luck!

 

[750driver]

Be careful what you do, you could be jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.... If you should ever come interview in front of me I would wonder why you left your airline job and why should I hire you, since you bailed on your last airline job. This is not the time to be lookling for flying jobs.
Have a Happy New Year

I agree with CW's point that this in NOT a good time to leave. I wouldn't put notice in unless you have something solid lined up first. What worries me is CW's statement, and I don't say this to offend him personally:

" If you should ever come interview in front of me I would wonder why you left your airline job and why should I hire you, since you bailed on your last airline job. "

It almost sounds as if you are implying that there must be something wrong with a Pilot that leaves the airlines. Falcon Captain & H25b are right ... maybe this person is not the airline type, and maybe he didn't enjoy the environment. This doesn't mean he is damaged goods, or unloyal. I consider "bailing out" to be someone that went through training and stayed a few months, obviously wasting company training funds.

I've run into this mentality before. As a company representative, it's important to evaluate each person individually and find out WHY he left, before disqualifying him from further consideration. I believe too many good candidates are turned away because of perceptions like this. Don't judge people for their decisions, evaluate them. Look beyond the book's cover, and you might be surprised at what you find... a quality employee.

Happy New Year to you all

 

[Country Wild]

I am not pulling for airline pilots or this industry at all, but when you have known..ie a descent job steady paycheck and profitable company I would hesitate to leave, at least until things settled down. Correct me if I am wrong...If you were to leave a corporate job on good terms and lets say a year later want to come back you have a good chance of starting where you left off. When you leave messed up industry as ours once your gone and come back, your on the bottom no matter what you do ( medical leave and family doesn't count, actually giving up your seniority number is what I am refering to). In many interviews I have had such people that left a regional job, went else where and interviewed with me. Most were FO's that wanted a better sked and more money, many who passed the test, sim etc were hired. I have interviewed very few Captians who left the regional environment, for better pay and sked, then turned around and wanted to come back to the same industery at the majors level. HR people love to eat these people up, unfortunately there were many good pilots who were sent away because of this career move. I just interview and make recommendations...I do not have the final say so in any way shape or form.

 

[h25b]

You can't blame anyone for wanting more time with their family. I've been at the regionals before, commuting sucks, believe me. Regionals make their money by keeping their pilots in the air and paying them as little as possible. These two facts make it pretty difficult on the home life. Being a new father I can't imagine how I'd survive if I were still there.

My best advice for this person is if you're going to leave, make sure it's a quality operation that you could spend the rest of your career at... If you leave a Captain's post at a "Major" regional you are giving up a position that a lot of people these days would kill for. Do what's best for you and your family life and that'll suffice as an explanation to the HR people. If they can't understand that reasoning then you probably don't want to work there anyway. And if you want job security, become a Funeral Director because that's the only position I can think of that has a guaranteed demand for your services...

Good luck...

 

[reepicheep]

There used to be a stigma attached to someone who left a major airline job; such is not (or should not be) the case anymore. Heck; if I was interviewing someone who was hanging on at the bottom of US Airways after 15 years I'd welcome them with open arms. They'd probably be so happy to work for a company with a little upside potential they'd work their tails off for you. We're not talking here about Southwest captains or Delta 777 captains seeking entry-level corporate positions, but folks whose airline careers have probably hit a dead end.