Mil Flight Time vs. Insurance Mins

[CCDiscoB]

I'm asking this question here since it appears the charter/corporate companies are the ones most concerned with flight time and how it relates to their insurance requirements.
I've noticed on numerous job adds the 4000 total flight hours required statement. Should I adjust my military flight time from T.O to Landing to block to block automatically, or should I simply mention it in a cover letter (i.e. "These hours are my military hours and as you know they are from take-off to landing. I can adjust those hours to block to block if required for insurance purposes."). Which leads to another question I know has been asked over and over, but here it is: When is it OK to log sim time in the Total Duration of Flight column? All of my sim time is full motion.

 

[750driver]

CC,

If all your military time is T/O to landing and you are applying to a civilian job that counts block to block, I would convert. This will make it easier in terms of standardization and comparison.

As far as full-motion simulator time is concerned, I would NOT consider it in total flight time, regardless of how realistic it is (level C/D) etc. This is frowned upon in many civilian flying operations. Just my suggestion

Best wishes - 750

 

[FL510GV]

The old military to civilian convert...

Disco,

The standard accepted conversion factor is .2 per sortie for corporate (and NetJets, FedEx, etc), so every 1000 sorties equals an extra 200 hours.

Check out this thread http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?threadid=2425 I posted a spreadsheet there that will help, though you'll have to mess with it a bit for single seat.

 

[CCDiscoB]

Thanks for reminding me about that. I think I may have previously downloaded it.

I'd rather take JetBlue's approach. Take your flying time and multiply it by 1.3.

I used to figure my time at .3 per sortie, but since you say the standard is .2 that's what I'll use.

Thanks again.

 

[Diesel]

Just a question but why does military add a .2 or .3 to their flt time. I realize that their total time over a carreer is quite a bit lower so is that the reason? Thanks

 

[FL510GV]

Pad that flight time - you'll get hired!

It's because when we fly a military airplane, it's like flying a civilian one, just .2 per sortie harder

Seriously, when we log time in the AF it's from wheels up to landing plus 5 min and the FAA is from block to block. The accepted .2 per sortie is the best way to convert, JetBlue is very generous with a 1.3 multiple of total time, SWA takes .3 per sortie, but most that take a conversion will only take the .2 per sortie (a lot DO NOT take any conversion factor so check with the company or you'll have a fun interview explaining why you padded your flight time).

Nice Bag.

 

[Flyjets]

Just to add to what has been said here.... I was booted out of active duty over the anthrax vaccine scandal, so I had to scramble to get info about this subject. I called several FSDO's to get many different opinions about what was "acceptable." As far as the FAA is concerned (according to the several FSDO opinions), 0.2 per sortie is acceptable for their criteria.

To address the question: Each airline is different as far as what they will accept. In the corporate world dealing with insurance, I would adjust according to the FAA opinion (0.2 per sortie). That way if anything ever happened, you would have firm ground to stand on if the insurance company were to question your qualifications.

FWIW