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Mesa's "high ethical standards" and the true meaning of Peter Murnane's "firing"

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Hikoushi

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Mesa's "high ethical standards" and the true meaning of Peter Murnane's "firing"

Looks like Peter Murnane's "administrative leave" as a result of deleting porn / Hawaiian's confidential information was smoke and mirrors. OJ just sent him off to China! Check out these links; both show pix taken FROM MESA'S WEBSITE showing Murnane sitting right next to JO at the Kunpeng inauguration about a month AFTER he was "placed on leave" due to "Mesa's High Ethical Standards". The date is written on the wall in the photos. Of course these pictures were taken down from the Mesa site the day after they went up, but these kind folks kept them up. Now, if someone would just send them to Hawaiian's attorney, Judge Faris, Mark Dunkerly et al, we'ed take care of this whole go! hawaii / Mesa disease once and for all.

http://www.planebuzz.com/2007/11/just_what_did_administrative_l.html

http://mesalies.blogspot.com/
 
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Looks like Peter Murnane's "administrative leave" as a result of deleting porn / Hawaiian's confidential information was smoke and mirrors. OJ just sent him off to China! Check out these links; both show pix taken FROM MESA'S WEBSITE showing Murnane sitting right next to JO at the Kunpeng inauguration about a month AFTER he was "placed on leave" due to "Mesa's High Ethical Standards". The date is written on the wall in the photos. Of course these pictures were taken down from the Mesa site the day after they went up, but these kind folks kept them up. Now, if someone would just send them to Hawaiian's attorney, Judge Faris, Mark Dunkerly et al, we'ed take care of this whole go! hawaii / Mesa disease once and for all.

http://www.planebuzz.com/2007/11/just_what_did_administrative_l.html

http://mesalies.blogspot.com/

LOL !
 
So this little snippet of critical info is not forgotten, let's keep it active. This is important stuff. Is Peter Murnane still in China? Illegitimately working for OJ? Have those photos been eradicated by Mesa's censors? Seek the Truth! Mesa lies! go! is not a hawaiian airline! Mesa has no aloha! Free Hawaii from Ornstein!

Keep your foot on the gas pedal, JO, full speed ahead; the Brick Wall of Death is just around the corner!
 
Mesa Sucks.
 
Too much Kool Aid?

So this little snippet of critical info is not forgotten, let's keep it active. This is important stuff. Is Peter Murnane still in China? Illegitimately working for OJ? Have those photos been eradicated by Mesa's censors? Seek the Truth! Mesa lies! go! is not a hawaiian airline! Mesa has no aloha! Free Hawaii from Ornstein!

Keep your foot on the gas pedal, JO, full speed ahead; the Brick Wall of Death is just around the corner!

Man, did some Hawaiin or Aloha pilot drink too much kool aid?

Now, it may be true that JO and friends had a look at documents provided to them by Hawaiin and Aloha and the court may have ruled Mesa destroyed eviedence, but did they actually use it?

Mesa and JO haters can stir the pot, but I think something is being overlooked here. When GO! came to the islands, it was to furnish an inter-island link that was not affordable by the dominant duopoly that took advantage of having the only means to transport people between the islands.

I recentcly spoke with someone associated with GO! and learned how apprciative the people are of having GO! I'm talking about the little people such as bar tenders, tour bus operators and other regular Joe's who move the wheel that is Hawaii's tourist business.
These are the guys in need of cheap fares to go to the other islands to see family. The guy I spoke with said he got many free drink's and thank you's while on the islands from people seeing his GO! shirt.

Point is GO! is serving a niche out there and the duopoly got there ego's bruised when GO! lasted more than 6 months, (unlike previous island competitors). This is were, I feel the lawsuits orginated. Sadly, what Hawaiin and Aloha are missing is the point that GO! is a seperate animal, and that their not focusing for the same tourist crowd.

Also why you Hawaiin and Aloha pilots may vent, fume, cuss JO&MESA and drink plenty of Kool Aid, remember this is America and its commerce system runs on free enterprise, which allows competitors to enter and exit markets freely. Beyond that why do you duopoly guys get in such a tissy over this? You have jobs that don't appear to be going away. You don't camp out on plywood boards. You probably make more than a senior GO! captian and your airline is not after the same passenger GO! is servicing.
 
Man, did some Hawaiin or Aloha pilot drink too much kool aid?

Now, it may be true that JO and friends had a look at documents provided to them by Hawaiin and Aloha and the court may have ruled Mesa destroyed eviedence, but did they actually use it?

Mesa and JO haters can stir the pot, but I think something is being overlooked here. When GO! came to the islands, it was to furnish an inter-island link that was not affordable by the dominant duopoly that took advantage of having the only means to transport people between the islands.

I recentcly spoke with someone associated with GO! and learned how apprciative the people are of having GO! I'm talking about the little people such as bar tenders, tour bus operators and other regular Joe's who move the wheel that is Hawaii's tourist business.
These are the guys in need of cheap fares to go to the other islands to see family. The guy I spoke with said he got many free drink's and thank you's while on the islands from people seeing his GO! shirt.

Point is GO! is serving a niche out there and the duopoly got there ego's bruised when GO! lasted more than 6 months, (unlike previous island competitors). This is were, I feel the lawsuits orginated. Sadly, what Hawaiin and Aloha are missing is the point that GO! is a seperate animal, and that their not focusing for the same tourist crowd.

Also why you Hawaiin and Aloha pilots may vent, fume, cuss JO&MESA and drink plenty of Kool Aid, remember this is America and its commerce system runs on free enterprise, which allows competitors to enter and exit markets freely. Beyond that why do you duopoly guys get in such a tissy over this? You have jobs that don't appear to be going away. You don't camp out on plywood boards. You probably make more than a senior GO! captian and your airline is not after the same passenger GO! is servicing.

Go home and play your MS Flight Simulator and Airport Tycoon IV and leave the real stuff to us. It's clear your ideals do not match reality.
 
Man, did some Hawaiin ((IT'S "HAWAIIAN" NOT "HAWAIIN"--ed.)) or Aloha pilot drink too much kool aid?

.....When GO! came to the islands, it was to furnish an inter-island link that was not affordable by the dominant duopoly that took advantage of having the only means to transport people between the islands.

I recentcly ((SPELLING AGAIN!!--ed.)) spoke with someone associated with GO! and learned how apprciative ((..AND AGAIN!!!--ed.)) the people are of having GO! I'm talking about the little people such as bar tenders, tour bus operators and other regular Joe's who move the wheel that is Hawaii's tourist business.
These are the guys in need of cheap fares to go to the other islands to see family. The guy I spoke with said he got many free drink's and thank you's while on the islands from people seeing his GO! shirt.


You wanna talk about drinking Kool-Aid, and then spout this kind of garbage? Give me a break, brah.

Do you seriously think JO came here to do charity work? His business model involving raising fares ABOVE pre-go! levels after the defeat of an incumbent carrier was DISCLOSED IN COURT, and HE LOST THE CASE. The JUDGE called him a liar saying "I simply could not believe his testimony" in the newspaper press release the next day. This Murnane-in-China-after-being-"fired" BS is just another shady deal that proves how absolutely false this guy's "good intentions" are.

And you, my friend, are exactly the kind of person who falls for his drivel, keeping JO's pockets green with money while his employees are on food stamps.

Enjoy that Kool-Aid, I prefer Heineken. Peace out.
 
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Man, did some Hawaiin or Aloha pilot drink too much kool aid?

Now, it may be true that JO and friends had a look at documents provided to them by Hawaiin and Aloha and the court may have ruled Mesa destroyed eviedence, but did they actually use it?

Mesa and JO haters can stir the pot, but I think something is being overlooked here. When GO! came to the islands, it was to furnish an inter-island link that was not affordable by the dominant duopoly that took advantage of having the only means to transport people between the islands.

I recentcly spoke with someone associated with GO! and learned how apprciative the people are of having GO! I'm talking about the little people such as bar tenders, tour bus operators and other regular Joe's who move the wheel that is Hawaii's tourist business.
These are the guys in need of cheap fares to go to the other islands to see family. The guy I spoke with said he got many free drink's and thank you's while on the islands from people seeing his GO! shirt.

Point is GO! is serving a niche out there and the duopoly got there ego's bruised when GO! lasted more than 6 months, (unlike previous island competitors). This is were, I feel the lawsuits orginated. Sadly, what Hawaiin and Aloha are missing is the point that GO! is a seperate animal, and that their not focusing for the same tourist crowd.

Also why you Hawaiin and Aloha pilots may vent, fume, cuss JO&MESA and drink plenty of Kool Aid, remember this is America and its commerce system runs on free enterprise, which allows competitors to enter and exit markets freely. Beyond that why do you duopoly guys get in such a tissy over this? You have jobs that don't appear to be going away. You don't camp out on plywood boards. You probably make more than a senior GO! captian and your airline is not after the same passenger GO! is servicing.

talk about kool-aid..this is right from JO's tap.

sorry to say but your kool-aid is old and out of date. JO and company have even given up on selling this flavor. if you want to blow JO..do it in his office, not here.
 
Man, did some Hawaiin or Aloha pilot drink too much kool aid?

Now, it may be true that JO and friends had a look at documents provided to them by Hawaiin and Aloha and the court may have ruled Mesa destroyed eviedence, but did they actually use it?

Mesa and JO haters can stir the pot, but I think something is being overlooked here. When GO! came to the islands, it was to furnish an inter-island link that was not affordable by the dominant duopoly that took advantage of having the only means to transport people between the islands.

I recentcly spoke with someone associated with GO! and learned how apprciative the people are of having GO! I'm talking about the little people such as bar tenders, tour bus operators and other regular Joe's who move the wheel that is Hawaii's tourist business.
These are the guys in need of cheap fares to go to the other islands to see family. The guy I spoke with said he got many free drink's and thank you's while on the islands from people seeing his GO! shirt.

Point is GO! is serving a niche out there and the duopoly got there ego's bruised when GO! lasted more than 6 months, (unlike previous island competitors). This is were, I feel the lawsuits orginated. Sadly, what Hawaiin and Aloha are missing is the point that GO! is a seperate animal, and that their not focusing for the same tourist crowd.

Also why you Hawaiin and Aloha pilots may vent, fume, cuss JO&MESA and drink plenty of Kool Aid, remember this is America and its commerce system runs on free enterprise, which allows competitors to enter and exit markets freely. Beyond that why do you duopoly guys get in such a tissy over this? You have jobs that don't appear to be going away. You don't camp out on plywood boards. You probably make more than a senior GO! captian and your airline is not after the same passenger GO! is servicing.


Man you need a tissue for your nose. JO even undercut United. Yes United with his self-help island charty work. How United took that is slowly becoming apparent. There is more, way more, than two airlines out there somewhere. The people loved Pablo at first. I can only hope JO undercuts your new airline. Now I have koolaid on my shoes. GO drop through your A$$hole, dry up and blow away!!!!
 
the duopoly got there ego's bruised when GO! lasted more than 6 months, (unlike previous island competitors). This is were, I feel the lawsuits orginated.

I love doing this! OK here goes...

Mid pacific started in 1979 by ex-Hawaiian Airlines executives and by 1982 were extremely well capitalized and appeared invincible.

This (Mid Pac) management team was very savvy, not like the baboons and internet trolls running Mesa into the ground today.

Mid Pacific flew for EIGHT YEARS until flying into liquidation... When Mid Pacific shut down in 1988, they wasted no time in starting over. They blamed the YS-11 as the primary reason the airline failed and this time bought brand new BAe-146's, but once again failed this time by July 1990.

This "new airline" was called "Discovery" and may is obviously what the troll is referencing. "less than 6 months".

Mahalo Airlines (started by "Robert's" Hawaii travel mogul Robert Iwamoto) began service in Hawaii in October of 1993 and flew until summer of 1997. Just shy of FOUR YEARS.

OK,... We have all heard JO wax long about how "he looked at Discovery" when the DOT forced that airline to find a US buyer for their stock of face shutdown.

If Discovery is the only game JO used in his playbook it is NO WONDER he under-estimated the resolve of Hawaiian, Aloha, and the rest of us out here in Hawaii.

Jonathan Ornstein is now a "dead man walking"... it wont be long now and the madman himself will be out on the street.

Justice is coming. May it be firm and swift.
 

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