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MESA Airlines Hawaii Inagural Flight

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Dash8301 said:
Nice. Exept you forgot to mention that the next crew flew it back before ground personal noticed the damage.

O blast from the past - ROA 33 landing, not that our/my company has never done anything stupid - same for all other outfits
 
I thought that was the same clip.

BTW if that were real MESA thered be about 5 hot flight attendants getting flung out of the plane...
 
Out of curiousity could someone please summarize the ROA incident? Thanks. I've heard bits and pieces but not the full scenario.
 
NTSB Identification: NYC02LA013.
The docket is stored in the Docket Management System (DMS). Please contact Records Management Division
Scheduled 14 CFR Part 121: Air Carrier operation of Mesa Airlines (D.B.A. US Airways Express)

Accident occurred Tuesday, October 16, 2001 in Roanoke, VA
Probable Cause Approval Date: 6/25/2003
Aircraft: Embraer 145LR, registration: N825MJ
Injuries: 33 Uninjured.

The captain briefed a "no go-around" for a night visual approach to a "Special Airport." The approach was not stabilized, and the airspeed decreased to the point of a stall. The airplane struck the runway in a nose high pitch attitude, on the aft fuselage, and settled on the landing gear. The first officer made initial callouts of slow airspeed and then stopped when the captain failed to respond to her callouts. After landing, the airplane was taxied to the gate where a post flight inspection limited to the main landing gear did not find the damage. When interviewed, the captain reported that she briefed "no go-around" because no takeoffs were authorized on the runway at night or in IMC conditions; however, the first officer knew this was incorrect, but did not challenge the captain. Both pilots had received CRM training, which included crewmember assertiveness, methods of fostering crew input, and situational awareness, and training on special use airports; however it was not followed by either pilot. The captain's handling of the airplane was outside the parameters specified in the company manuals. Both pilots were described to having good flying skills. The captain said the first officer was passive and quiet. The first officer reported the captain was defensive and did not take criticism very well. A definition of stabilized approach criteria was not found in the company manuals. An FAA Advisory Circular dated August 10, 2000 defined stabilized approach criteria, and actions to be taken if the approach was not stabilized. The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows:

the captain's failure to maintain airspeed which resulted in an inadvertent stall/mush, and hard landing. Factors were the failure of both pilots to follow company CRM and flight manual procedures, and the captains improper approach briefing.
 
I think a crew got in trouble the next day for flying the Aircraft out of ROA! They showed up the next morning Pre-Flighted, and flew it with all the damage underneath and the engines bent at a angle.
 
This was from ES II by Bruce Brown. This was a landing I think in Costa Rica. The film footage was immediately rushed out of the country before it could be taken by the govt. Great movie if you haven't seen it, check with your local Blockbuster.

Enjoy, Baja.
 
Great video. It's Torino Olympics 2006, Seaplane Slalom....the gold medal goes to the Costa Rican team!
 
scar1900 said:
Didn't playing telephone as a kid teach you anything...

Well hell! Did it happen? I heard two pilots (They were suspended or Fired) flew that broken plane out of ROA after they pre-flighted it. So is it true? I know it could have been serveral factors. Early morning and dark, new hire FO or Capt that might not have noticed the damage!
 
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