Make a bet

[nomore]

I'll wager Bob/B-19 will be gone within one week of contract ratification at good ol' Flight Options. Any other guesses?

N

 

[realityman]

One day.

 

[SilverSurfer]

Sooner then that

I'll wager Bob/B-19 will be gone within one week of contract ratification at good ol' Flight Options. Any other guesses?

N

I bet he is gone sooner then that. Word in CGF is that Sh!tfinger and Baboo are blaming him for the recent embarrassment in DFW. I bet that Sh!tfinger throws him under the bus long before we have a contract blaming the company problems on poor old Bob/B19. He will be the first to go then HIG will come in at some point after that and usher "M" and Baboo out the door.:crying:

 

[Galaxy]

After a contract he will be gone just like FamilyGuy during NJA's turmoil years. I hope they do send Bob a packin or pursuing other interests--like unemployment.

 

[CA1900]

After a contract he will be gone just like FamilyGuy during NJA's turmoil years...

And yet, still watching:

FamilyGuy - Registered User - Last Activity: Yesterday 23:32

 

[nomore]

Sweeeeeet

You guys had Peter Griffin attempting to torment you during your negotiations? Lois is hot!



N

 

[Galaxy]

And yet, still watching:

FamilyGuy - Registered User - Last Activity: Yesterday 23:32

Yea-a real HERO! with all of his 476 anti-union posts..

BOY WAS HE SOOOOO WRONG!!!!!!

 

[B19 Flyer]

I'll wager Bob/B-19 will be gone within one week of contract ratification at good ol' Flight Options. Any other guesses?

N

Ratification of a contract is only the beginning of the fun. Then I'll enjoy watching the moaning, groaning and complaining of the painful process of implementing the contract. You'll get exactly what you asked for.

You guys on this board are easy to wind up. How many FLOPS guys really read this stuff? You give yourselves way to much credit.

There wasn't a shooter on the grassy knoll, Elvis is really dead, and I don't have an agenda for Flight Options. There is no conspiracy! I simply like to pass the word along that union involvement in an air carrier, is only a myth that it really helps. I've seen, lived, eaten and breathed the contrary. My favorite employer of all time (not a legacy carrier) has been completely dismanteled by a single union and is hanging on today by a thread. When that one goes by the wayside, and it might be sooner than later, the union will be the blame, not the management.

I simply latched onto this board out of sheer coincidence because of my previous fractional involvement. I'll be here when the economy falters, to say "I told you so" when the union blames management and cripples the company. But, in the meantime, you guys have a long way to go before there is ratification.

I don't have to worry about that. I'm in a non-union carrier.

 

[B19 Flyer]

Yea-a real HERO! with all of his 476 anti-union posts..

BOY WAS HE SOOOOO WRONG!!!!!!

Judging the success of a contract by a time frame measured in months are words of a fool.

"Industry leading contracts" signed in 1999 could have been considered successful right up until the bankruptcies of nearly all the carriers and the loss of pensions, etc. less then 3 years later.

I've said over and over, the measure of a union isn't how it acts during the good times, it's how it steps up during the bad times.

The track record isn't good.

 

[realityman]

B19, your posts keep getting dumber all the time.

So what you're saying is: Things are always great until they go bad.

Well, duh!

Are you really trying to convince us that all non-union companies survive when there's a downturn in the economy? Uh, I beg to differ.

I've asked you before, with no response, but I'll try a different tactic. For every company you name that went out of business SUPPOSEDLY because of a union, I'll name a company that went out of business that was non-union. But I'll leave it to you to tell me why my non-union companies went out of business. I'll be very interested to hear your reasoning on the non-union companies' demise.

Also, still waiting to hear why you aren't trying to 'help' the folks over at JetBlue. FLOPS already has a union. Too late there buddy.

By the way, in your opinion, how long does it take before anyone can say their industry-leading contract isn't hurting the company? You say a few months isn't enough. NJA has been in the black for over two years now with our 'industry-leading' contract. Is that enough? What if we can go 10 years in the black. Will that be enough? Suppose we go 5 years in the black, have a few years in the red, then have more years in the black. Does that count?

Interesting how you like to throw your 'informed' opinion out there, but don't provide any qualifiers.

Also wondering, if a company goes under, how do you, B19, decide if it went under because of inflexible union contracts, or if it would have gone under anyway even if all the employees had decided to work for free. Eastern comes to mind. How can you be so sure that Eastern would have made it if the unions had capitulated immediately? Just because a union doesn't want to take a paycut before the end doesn't mean the end wasn't coming anyway.

Please feel free to answer these questions in as much detail as you can.