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spitfire1940

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maybe people have seen this already, but these guys died steering their burning c-12 away from a residential area.


San Francisco Chronicle
August 14, 2003
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Army Pilot From Sonoma Dies In South Korea Crash

By Jim Herron Zamora, Chronicle Staff Writer

Sonoma residents are mourning the death of a native son whose U.S. Army transport plane crashed Tuesday in a South Korea farmer's field, narrowly avoiding a densely populated residential area.

U.S. Army Capt. Kevin Norman, 30, and a second Army pilot whose name was not released, died after attempting an emergency landing in a field about 25 miles south of Seoul during a training flight.

The two men were piloting a C-12 Huron, a 10-seat turboprop plane that caught fire before it went down at 2:43 p.m. about 6 miles southwest of Camp Humphreys, a U.S. military base near the Korean city of Asan.

Witnesses said that the burning plane had swerved away from an area with numerous apartment buildings and businesses and that the pilots had attempted an emergency landing in an onion field behind a restaurant. The plane was engulfed in flames as it came down.

"That sounds just like Kevin," said John McMillan, a lifelong friend and civilian pilot. "I know he would do anything to avoid injuring an innocent person. He's a great guy."

Norman remained close to his childhood friends in Sonoma, where he was born and raised, and often traveled thousands of miles to meet them for reunions, his friends said.

Norman attended St. Francis Solano elementary school in Sonoma and graduated from Justin Siena High School in Napa, where he played both baseball and football. He also served as a firefighter for the Shell-Vista Volunteer Fire Department in high school.

He graduated from West Point in 1996 and spent four years on the academy's football team as a punter and backup quarterback. He also met his future wife, Army pilot Capt. Brandi Buldt, at West Point.

"It's a terrible loss for us. We really consider him our brother," said lifelong friend Mickey Lippitt of San Rafael. "I will consider him my friend and brother for the rest of my life."



Pacific Stars and Stripes
August 15, 2003

Memorial Service Set For 2 Pilots Of C-12

By Joseph Giordono, Stars and Stripes

YONGSAN GARRISON, South Korea — A memorial service has been set for Friday for the two Army pilots killed in Tuesday’s crash of a C-12 Huron near Camp Humphreys.

The service is to begin at 10 a.m. at Yongsan Garrison’s South Post Chapel, an 8th Army spokesman said.

Capt. Kevin M. Norman, 30, and Chief Warrant Officer David W. Snow, 37, were killed after their plane caught fire, spun out of control and plowed into an onion field near a small town, witnesses said.

Assigned to Company A, 6th Battalion, 52nd Aviation, 17th Aviation Brigade at Seoul Air Base, they were completing a routine maintenance test flight, officials have said.

Witnesses said it appeared the pilots tried to maneuver the stricken craft away from a busy road and populated areas.

Norman, from California, is survived by his wife, Capt. Brandi L. Norman, currently assigned to 8th Army. Snow is survived by his wife, Amy, and daughters, Emily and Olivia of Fayetteville, N.C.

Lt. Col. Steve Boylan, an 8th Army spokesman, said a team from the U.S. Army Safety Center in Fort Rucker, Ala., arrived Wednesday and began investigating the crash’s cause. No debris will be moved from the site until the investigation is complete, he said.

Another U.S. team is at the site discussing property damage claims with local residents, Boylan said.
 
CitationKid ... you and I need to have a loooooong talk.

:rolleyes:

PM possibly?

Minh
 
I'd rather do this privately, but here goes ...

First off, you are a very lucky young man and there are alot of us old career-changers who'd kill to be in your shoes, even if the time is not loggable. It's great experience. Second, your enthusiasm is admirable.

However ... a little humility might be in order, and also a little discretion. When you, at fourteen years old and not old enough to hold a PPL start posting left, right and center about so many subjects, and try to discuss the ins and outs of commercial flying with the pros who do it for a living in the manner suggesting that they are your peers ... you don't realize how it makes you look. I'm forty years old and I don't try to talk to these guys about flight planning for turbo-props or how they otherwise conduct business in detail. I ask questions sometimes, and I post about other OT subjects (sometimes when I shouldn't :D ). But they are not my peers. They are my teachers, in a manner of speaking, and when I'm on their turf I try to maintain an attitude of humility and willingness to learn. Even if it's someone I don't particularly like ... when it comes to the business of aviation I am a student.

With a little humilty, and a little restraint, you can glean tons of good info from the pros here. Just slow down and stop the (model) name-dropping and you'll be better received. You have already been accused of being a number of former unpopular posters here. With a small attitude adjustment you can correct this and pick these guys brains for a goldmine of info, without creating ill will. You and I can be students and learn together.

Again ... your enthusiasm is admirable, and so are your manners generally. In many ways, you show a maturity way beyond your years. You also have better grammar and spelling than 75% of us. :D

parental_rant = off;

Uncle Minh "Old Fart" Thong
 
Snakum said:
I'd rather do this privately, but here goes ...

First off, you are a very lucky young man and there are alot of us old career-changers who'd kill to be in your shoes, even if the time is not loggable. It's great experience. Second, your enthusiasm is admirable.

However ... a little humility might be in order, and also a little discretion. When you, at fourteen years old and not old enough to hold a PPL start posting left, right and center about so many subjects, and try to discuss the ins and outs of commercial flying with the pros who do it for a living in the manner suggesting that they are your peers ... you don't realize how it makes you look. I'm forty years old and I don't try to talk to these guys about flight planning for turbo-props or how they otherwise conduct business in detail. I ask questions sometimes, and I post about other OT subjects (sometimes when I shouldn't :D ). But they are not my peers. They are my teachers, in a manner of speaking, and when I'm on their turf I try to maintain an attitude of humility and willingness to learn. Even if it's someone I don't particularly like ... when it comes to the business of aviation I am a student.

With a little humilty, and a little restraint, you can glean tons of good info from the pros here. Just slow down and stop the (model) name-dropping and you'll be better received. You have already been accused of being a number of former unpopular posters here. With a small attitude adjustment you can correct this and pick these guys brains for a goldmine of info, without creating ill will. You and I can be students and learn together.

Again ... your enthusiasm is admirable, and so are your manners generally. In many ways, you show a maturity way beyond your years. You also have better grammar and spelling than 75% of us. :D

parental_rant = off;

Uncle Minh "Old Fart" Thong
Couldn't have said it better myself, Minh. Cit. Kid, now 2 people have told you to cool it. For your own sake and the sanity of all us "flame bait" suckers, please cool it...

"Grandpa" Skyking
 
Ok, let this not turn into another pi$$ing match here. Let's remember that this thread is here to honor the lives of two incredibly brave men. We need more people like these two, not to be losing them.

I will pray for their families...
 

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