Looking For F/a Position Private Flying In Usa Pls Help!!

[L2 Door]

Hi, hoping that there is someone out there who can help me!!

I am enquiring to see if anyone has the inside track on applying as a Flight Attendant with Net Jets or any other private airline in the United States. I have recently resigned after 5 very happy yrs at an International Carrier in the Middle East. I had extensive experience in First Class and Business Class as well as a BA (HONS) degree and a wealth of experience in the catering industry.

The only thing I was concerned about on the application information for Net Jets was the fact that they require an American passport. I have a British passport but I will be marrying an American citizen and applying for a US passport after I am married.

I am really keen to carry on flying but I would like to try corporate/private flying for a change. If anyone has any info on Net Jets or any other corporate flying companies, all info would be greatly appreciated. By the way, I will be resident in San Diego

Thanks a million

L2 Door xx

 

[betelnuts]

Netjets is hiring FA's but, a green card would be mandatory. check out www.netjets.com for hiring info. Good luck.

 

[psysicx]

Avjet

 

[Ace-of-the-Base]

AvJet crash

No offense to anyone, but shouldn't you mention that one of AvJets crews killed a flight attendant about a year ago in Aspen.

 

[Brett Hull]

No offense to anyone, but shouldn't you mention that one of AvJets crews killed a flight attendant about a year ago in Aspen.

Huh?

 

[HMR]

No offense to anyone, but shouldn't you mention that one of AvJets crews killed a flight attendant about a year ago in Aspen.

WTF? You're kidding, right? I do not work for AvJet but they're one of the best PT135 operators in CA if not the US. I've had the opportunity to do contract work for them in the past and they run a very tight ship. I did an emergency ops/water survival class with some of their F/A's earlier this year. The AvJet F/A's knew more about aircraft than alot of the pilots that were there from other companies.

I didn't know the Aspen crew but I've had to study the accident in detail for a few indocs. From pilots who knew them I understand they were very experienced, highly regarded, and got themselves into a VERY BAD situation.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

No offense to anyone, but shouldn't you mention that one of AvJets crews killed a flight attendant about a year ago in Aspen.

What does avjet have to do with a pilot driving a perfectly good airplane into a rock?

Anyone who read that report would agree that was not an accident, that was a felony.

 

[Ace-of-the-Base]

Fact: 18 people lost their lives in one of AvJets planes flown by one of AvJets crews. I think that fact alone disqualifies them as being one of the 'best' 135 ops. Interesting that the folks there think these guys were some of their best. Ouch. Just thought this gal looking for a job should know their history. Not many 135 companies have been involved in such a tragic loss of life.

 

[Ace-of-the-Base]

>What does avjet have to do with a pilot driving a perfectly good airplane into a rock?

>Anyone who read that report would agree that was not an accident, that was a felony.


Wow. How naive can you get. Safety is a whole company, not just one rouge crew. This company dispatched the flight, trained the crews and created the environment that allowed this to happen. The crew was the last link in a weak chain. Do some accident study and you'll see how that works. It's old news, but it's people like you that don't understand how important safety is thoughout a company and don't learn from accidents such as this. Luckly I work for a corporate flight operation that DEMANDS safety and lives it every day.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

ace-hole of the base,

sure, Avjet may be just another ratty 135 operator (maybe not?), lots of us have been there-done that. Lots of us also learned how to operate safely BY working at bad places. We learned to watch out for our won a$$es, how to politely say "NO" and offer the safe alterantive (Grand Junction) and when polite does not work, you firmly offer the only choice here (Grand Junction).

Cant blame the guy sitting in the office at Avjet when you blatently break rules.

I got no reason to HAVE to be at Aspen, and I have put my foot down numerous times at Aspen - regardless of what the outcome would have been. I would be home the next day with my family either way.

I always understood that as a PIC, it was my job to ensure the safety of the flight. Plain and Simple. To say that "the company pressures us" is chicken$hit and only fuels the lawyers. Do your job.

Analyze that simple chain all you want, people will continue to be killed so long as pilots choose to shoot the ILS RWY 15 KASE.

Gald you work for a great oufit that "DEMANDS SAFETY every day".....welcome to the 80's..

 

[Ace-of-the-Base]

Read my posts, almostgulfstream. I didn't say the pilots weren't to blame, I just pointed out the facts. They were dispatched to fly to Aspen with moments to spare before curfew. Someone behind a desk was watching the time. I met a crew in TEB who flew that same plane and said they went through crews like water because Avjet let the owner work the crews for up to 20 hours of flying in a day! Many things tend to lead up to these accidents and we (the pilots) ARE the last line of defense.


Fly safe(r)

 

[Gulfstream 200]

But the pilots WERE to blame.

XYZ operator didnt "let the owner work the crews 20 hrs /day" -- The pilots are big boys and girls and THEY let XYZ operator work them 20hrs/day. Step up and take resonsibility folks.

Now, I understand its more complex than that, I have worked for 3 different versions of this and have bent my share of duty times...but would you ever catch me 1500' below mins at KASE at night? .

FUK NO. Not on your life. I dont care what kind of prik is in back yelling. Its my sad job to keep that miserable prik alive. (and myself so I can look for a better job) And I personally think every single one of us should feel this way.

So when the GIII is a smoking hole and there are 18 charred bodies, take one guess at who is primarily to blame? ........ the mean boss in back who forced them to go? the charter operator who was afraid of losing a client?....Sorry...NO.

Hopefully someone DID learn something from this tragic event.....but I sure didn't.

 

[Jack Schitt]

I have worked for 3 different versions of this and have bent my share of duty times...but would you ever catch me 1500' below mins at KASE at night? .

So how do you decide which rules are ok to break and which rules are not ok to break?

 

[TCA]

What ILS @ASE??
Thanks
TCA
Still Climbing

 

[Gulfstream 200]

So how do you decide which rules are ok to break and which rules are not ok to break?

duty day extended by 30 mins due to a arsehole charter pax....umm...OK I dont want to spend the night in Detroit either....lets go.

descend 1500ft below the MDA at KASE at night in a snow shower because my boss has a party to go to...

UH....NO.

Was a safe decision made?

make sense to ya?

 

[Ace-of-the-Base]

But the pilots WERE to blame.

XYZ operator didnt "let the owner work the crews 20 hrs /day" -- The pilots are big boys and girls and THEY let XYZ operator work them 20hrs/day. Step up and take resonsibility folks.

Hard to take responsibility when your not alive. Aren't you the cowboy, it's all up to you...no one else is involved in the safety of the operation. Wow. And I'm sure we all like how you get on your high horse but talk about how you 'bend' the FARs. Nice. You're an amature, and your right, you didn't learn a thing from that accident, nor my wasted breath in this post. Now, back to the thread. Some gal wants to find a good job in america (and a husband, but it sounds like she found that already). Let's all give her some constructive info. She's probably rolling her eyes about now...

 

[Gulfstream 200]

What ILS @ASE??
Thanks
TCA
Still Climbing

You know, the one where you reach the MDA DME fix and continue the descent IMC at 2000' fpm and look for the road (through the snow showers) The hell with that GPWS, you know thats the road and it leads up the east side of the airport.

That ILS.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Hard to take responsibility when your not alive. Aren't you the cowboy, it's all up to you...no one else is involved in the safety of the operation. Wow. And I'm sure we all like how you get on your high horse but talk about how you 'bend' the FARs. Nice. You're an amature, and your right, you didn't learn a thing from that accident, nor my wasted breath in this post. Now, back to the thread. Some gal wants to find a good job in america (and a husband, but it sounds like she found that already). Let's all give her some constructive info. She's probably rolling her eyes about now...

Sorry we dont agree ACE, all Im saying is take some responsibility for your decisions.

18 people died that day due to pilots decisions to decend below MDA at KASE at night in IMC. Nothing More.

Analyze all you want - thats the fact. (unfortunaltly)

As far as learning something?? OH OK, I learned that what they did was a bad decision. Im such an amature. I will have to rememeber not to do that in the future.

Always learning. Safety First. (or maybe common sense)

 

[Ace-of-the-Base]

OK, fair enough. We disagree. My point is summed up as this:
At my company (and others I've seen) that crew would never have been ALLOWED to take off that close to curfew and never would have been put in the position to make such bad and illegal decisions. That captain was know by the company to be a 'hot rod'. He had taken an aircraft off the end of a runway and tried to taxi it out of the mud and into the hangar without telling anyone (the tower called the FAA). He shouldn't have been hired, shouldn't have been dispatched, and, yes, finally shouldn't have flown below MDA. It takes a village...I'm glad I have a company, a copilot and a wife that help keep me out of trouble. I guess you are a one-man army.

Respectfully.

Ace

 

[Gulfstream 200]

sounds like you, also, have a good company behind you.

That helps.