Logging International Time

[LittleLearBoy]

I was in the middle of some hanger talk one day and all of us (none doing any international flying at the present time) was trying to guess how you would like a 11 hour flight overseas if you can only fly 8 hours.

My question is lets say you are an F/O on a 767 flying to Italy, and it takes 9 hours. How would you log this time? Would the future employer look at you with question if you logged all 9 hours?

And what about the relief pilot. What time would he log? weather he sits on the left or right seat?


G.P.

 

[Icebergclub]

International Time.............

Howdy Littlelearboy, this is a post of mine from awhile back. You can do a search and get more info on it..........it's been hashed out in the past. Anymore questions on it dont hesitate to write!

Fly safe......
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Logging time
Hey guys,
At our airline we fly 95% of our trips with one captain and 2 or 3 F/O's. (all crewmembers typed in the a/c) All crewmembers log the block time of the entire trip under total time. For example a DFW to SEL usually 14 to 15 hours block, gets logged as Total time. Then we have sub-categories for Pilot Flying, Pilot not flying. I have had my logbooks examined by three different airlines and have not had any trouble with how my time is logged. The official or FAA time for the trip is block time say 14.5 hours, we are all required crew and whether your sleeping or sitting up in a seat doesnt matter, your required crew for the trip and you can legally log the 14.5 hours under total time. The sub-categories are your descretion, most guys here log the PF, PNF. Some guys also have a cruise captain slot. U.S. airlines dont care about cruise captain time but alot of foreign carriers do.

People unfamiliar with the long-haul world get a good laugh out of our logbooks. We have big total time numbers but relatively small pilot flying and number of landings numbers. I have 58 landings for 1050 hours of 747 time.

An airline is going to care about your total time in the aircraft. Most are going to ignore your PF or PNF numbers. With an average of 4 crewmembers on a two-pilot airplane your actual sitting at the controls flying time is going to be very small. And if you consider that 98% of your leg flying is on autopilot your actual flying time is VERY small. We also have CAT III requirements for doing an autoland every 15 days which really cuts into your actual flying time.

So as an F/O with a type rating in the aircraft I log total time, SIC time, actuall IMC, X/country and landings as my official time and then I add for my own personal use PF, PNF, and cruise captain time.

Blue Skies,