Logbook Pro-caveat emptor

[orioncontract]

I'll admit I bought Logbook Pro after not much tinkering because of its association with the excellent Airline Pilot Daily Aviation Logbook (aka airlinelogbook) software (best $ I've spent in awhile). My problem? Has anyone figured out how to REALLY get "interview ready" numbers out of this beasts' analyzer for individual columns (i.e., PIC, Instrument, etc) when applying an adjustment for military time? I know from a spirited email exchange with LbP that there is apparently no way of currently getting this info from within the software, and not to hold your breath waiting for such a feature. Has anyone figured out a way to do a database manipulation to apply adjustments to individual columns based off of aircraft type in any other software? Or do I, as the LbP people suggested, just have to manipulate the numbers in a spreadsheet (the entire reason I was buying LbP in the first place-to get away from cumbersome spreadsheets!).

Any help here would be appreciated, although realistically speaking, pointless, because no-one's knocking on my door for interviews anyway . Eventually everything will change and the pendulum will swing the other way...right?

 

[sleddriver77]

I've been able to get LogbookPro to tell me what I needed to know to fill out apps pretty easily.
Just use the reports sections and the graphs. Mouse over the parts of the pie charts.
it'll tell ya what you wanna know.

 

[orioncontract]

I'm sorry I didn't communicate this effectively. The military (specifically the Navy) logs from takeoff to touchdown+5 or eng shutdown, whichever is less. Sled, I'm looking for something to help display adjusted resume/app/interview-ready numbers for military flying for all columns. Currently LbP only applies the adjustment you specify to one column: the total hours per airplane and subsequent total hours.

 

[DrEvil]

You may want to research your application requirements. Typically airlines do not want adjustments per item such as PIC/SIC but only allow adjustments to total time. It's simple in Logbook Pro to dump data to Microsoft Excel to further do analysis, formula's, etc, but I have never had the need to do so! Check the company you're applying for, I know the one's I've seen were compensating only total time.

 

[jlcaptain24]

Tim,

I'm in the same boat as you....It doesn't appear there's a way to adjust all or some of your columns using your specified adjustment. I can only get it to do total time as well.

Jason

 

[orioncontract]

I finally gave up

When my harddrive crashed recently (I had MOST of the stuff backed up on networked storage), I took the military stuff and put it back onto a spreadsheet and now just keep my APDL synch into LbP. Sadly, it takes much less time that way.

Oh, and BTW, I am not Tim, just a great admirer. You basically have to have watched Monty Python's "Search for the Holy Grail" to understand.

Good luck with flightinfo!

 

[VVJM265]

You can export the analyzer sheet to Excel and the manipulate the data in the spreadsheet. I have columns in my LBP that tally total sorties, Aircraft Cdr sorties, & IP sorties. In the excel sheet then I just add a cell with a conversion factor of hrs per soties (or total hrs like JB). A bit short on details but hope this helps.

 

[FL420]

It seems to me that the conversion factor should generally only apply to total time as the main difference between logging civilian and military time is the military logs less ground time than civilians. I think employers are more interested in the quality of your experience than in the amount. For example, is night time logged on the ground as valuable to raising your experience level as night time logged in the air? I doubt it and I'm guessing many employers do also.

Just my 2¢

 

[dtfl]

It seems to me that the conversion factor should generally only apply to total time as the main difference between logging civilian and military time is the military logs less ground time than civilians. I think employers are more interested in the quality of your experience than in the amount. For example, is night time logged on the ground as valuable to raising your experience level as night time logged in the air? I doubt it and I'm guessing many employers do also.

Just my 2¢

So if you are the PIC - you would have 5 more min total time than PIC time? Or SIC time? I am thinking you add the .3 or 5 min or whatever to your total/PIC and or SIC.

 

[marinepilot]

I'm sorry I didn't communicate this effectively. The military (specifically the Navy) logs from takeoff to touchdown+5 or eng shutdown, whichever is less. Sled, I'm looking for something to help display adjusted resume/app/interview-ready numbers for military flying for all columns. Currently LbP only applies the adjustment you specify to one column: the total hours per airplane and subsequent total hours.

I just retired from the Marine Corps and I don't think I ever heard about the +5 min's or until engine shutdown rule. I was taught we log only from takeoff to last touchdown.

Anyway, I also use Logbook Pro and to try and answer your question, I have been able to get adjusted times for each column in the Analyzer section. If you analyze all your data (or whatever data you're looking for) then go above the analyzer to the Master Filter box (with a drop down), you can pick your columns that way to filter the Analyzer. Then, once it's been filtered, you can go all the way to the right of the analyzer and see your adjusted hours.

An example would be in my logbook I have a custom column for Military Aircraft Commander (A Time). To find my adjusted hours I run the Analyzer for whatever times I'm looking at (because it's run by dates) and then select the MAC column from the Master Filter. Once it's been filtered, I go all the way to the right side of the analzyer and find my adjusted MAC hours.

Hope this is somewhat of what you were asking, and that it helps!

marinepilot