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FlyBunny

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Hello,
I fly for a 135 operator where we have C208s, Senecas, SE pistons, ME pistons, Cheyennes, and King Air - cargo only ops...a question came up...could we fly single-engine piston 'freight only' with cargo on board in actual IMC?
It's not in the 'Ops Manual' neither can I find it anywhere else.
I say we can, others disagree. I am still not clear on this so please add on to this your wisdom and thanks for your help!
Bunny
 
maybe im the only one, but i dont quite understand...you say that the aircraft are flown in "cargo only ops" but then go on to ask if you can fly cargo in single engine pistons, but tell us that its not included in the ops manual :confused:
 
Check area of operation

It is usually listed there. US, Canada, Mexico, then it will list day, night, VFR, IFR, etc.
 
Legal operations, depending on your company's approval:

Multi engine piston or turbine:
VFR/IFR passenger ops
VFR/IFR cargo ops


Single engine TURBINE, with several other hoops to jump through:
IFR passenger ops


Single engine piston or turbine:
VFR/IFR cargo ops
VFR only passenger ops


In other words, the only way to do SEL pax ops IFR is with a turbine aircraft on an engine trend program.

SEL VFR pax ops is just fine in the most dangerous of old 206's.
 
100LL... Again! said:
In other words, the only way to do SEL pax ops IFR is with a turbine aircraft on an engine trend program.

SEL VFR pax ops is just fine in the most dangerous of old 206's.
that wasnt the question though...

FlyBunny said:
could we fly single-engine piston 'freight only' with cargo on board in actual IMC?
 
Op Specs

Section A of your Op Specs should list which airplanes you can fly.
 
PilotsAreDorks said:
Single Engine IFR 135 Pax is legal with an approved autopilot.
Only for aircraft that have MTBF (mean time between failures) data and approved trend monitoring.

In other words, a turbine engine.

SEL-piston IFR w/pax is not gonna happen.
 
...how did this subject even creep in, because the original post says nothing about pax :confused:
 
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