Kitty Hawk Info?

[sycamore]

A few quick questions:

1. Any expected Hiring?
2. QOL?
3. Type of Schedule?

Thanks

 

[landlover]

for what its worth. last time i was in the jumpseat of the might seven dos, they were saying all of them would be parked by end of the year. going to be an all 737 fleet. they were all unsure of the out come, furlough? engineers getting a window seat?

 

[classof75]

two weeks on / two weeks off. weekend layovers during two weeks on. travel to and from home. good hourly rate.

On the negative side, low gaurantee resulting in a low basic pay basic pay check. You almost have to think of it as a part time flying job.

The company needs to do better, can it do so and survive... I don't know and I doubt anyone else does either.

There was talk of hiring but I think it was some offering an opinion and not based on fact.

Any new hires would start as a 727 FE. Anyone who gets hired can expect to sit sideways for a very long time.

I hope this info helps.

 

[erichartmann]

A few quick questions:

1. Any expected Hiring?
2. QOL?
3. Type of Schedule?

Thanks

ABX Air had a charter with Kitty Hawk. Word on the ramp was we pulled out because Kitty Hawk was a bit slow on paying the tab.

Interesting operation. Very laid back. Most of us were not used to that. We've been used to showing up on time, leaving early as soon as the aircraft is loaded. Kitty Hawk sometimes would not even begin loading the aircraft until departure time. Nobody seemed to hung up on delays.

The crews there told me they had quite a few people still out on furlough.

 

[classof75]

There is no one on furlough at the moment. The last recall of those still on the street was Nov of last year.

We enjoyed having ABX on the property.

 

[sycamore]

During a tour do you ever have overnights back at FWA?

 

[classof75]

rarely, trips start and end at cities other than Fort wayne.

 

[Box-Hauler]

Did a few turns at FWA. Nice facility. Crews were great, and your dinner was open until the planes left. What a novel concept. Be open when your customers would need you to be. ABX still has not learned that. Nothing like getting into the hub late and there not being anything except the wheel of death on the vending machine.

 

[shooter]

Did a few turns at FWA. Nice facility. Crews were great, and your dinner was open until the planes left. What a novel concept. Be open when your customers would need you to be. ABX still has not learned that. Nothing like getting into the hub late and there not being anything except the wheel of death on the vending machine.

How do you figure thats an ABX problem? Since you are 49% owned by DHL, and DHL now owns the airpark...seems it's more of your problem than that of ABX.

Nothing like getting into the hub late....

hum dee dum dum dee dee dum

 

[Box-Hauler]

Shooter,

I am just pointing out that the company that runs the dinner in ILN closes its doors while there are still planes on the ground, not to mention the thousand of sorters still there. I do believe that it is ABX's problem when I call in "not fit to fly" due to the lack of adequate food available. It is ABX's responsibility to have food available for the crew who can be stuck there for up to 5 hour. Not to mention the flight time into the hub. Most pilots eat at 5 o'clock local time from where the plane departs. Lets assume it is in the Easter time zone. I then fly from any city to ILN, lets say it was a 9 PM show 10 PM go with a 2 hour block. I now land in ILN at midnight. If I get rerouted to pick us some extra freight or cover for a MX delay I can get in very late. Dinner is now closed and I have not had any food, or possibility of food since I showed at the plane. That is all I am saying. FWA has figured it out, stay open till all the planes and sorters have left. Problem fixed and the food service company might even make a buck or two on the "morning" rush.

P.S. I do know that the airpark is now run by DHL but that does not relieve ABX from providing for its own employees. Wasn't ABX responsible for running the ILN hub not a short time ago?