King Air questions

[deskjobssuck]

Two quick questions for you.

1) I've got a Beech 1900 type rating. How does this relate, if at all, to flying other King Airs? Would differences training apply to be able to fly a Be20 for a 135 operator, or would it be a completely different aircraft. Also, how does my type relate to the 300/350 types?

2)I'm trying to get back to socal and back into the charter or corporate biz, but it has been pretty difficult to get a line on who actually operates king airs in the LA area. Also, at 3300 tt with 1100 pic in the 1900, do you think my time would be realistic for LA, or am I blowing sunshine up my own arse?

I appreciate any help you've got and wish you all good luck.

 

[Andy Neill]

Excuse me if I am observing the obvious here. There are distinct types involved here. Refer to AC61-89E, Appendix 2 as can be found at:

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/1ab39b4ed563b08985256a35006d56af/e6f473d2ab86c8cc86256ab600731af2/$FILE/Ac61-89e.pdf

There is a type for the BE-1900 (BE1900, BE1900C, BE-1900D, and the Military C-12J), the BE200 (BE-200T/BE-200TC), BE-300FF (BE-300FF), and another for the BE-300 (BE300, BE-300LW, BE-350, BE-B300). In all, there are four or five different type ratings for the aircraft you mentioned.

 

[deskjobssuck]

I realize there are different types. I was questioning whether my type translated downwards at all. I realize the 100 and most 200s don't need types, and I've never seen those other tip-tanked jobbies so I'm not too worried about them. I didn't realize that the 300 and 350 are the same type - neat to know. I apologize that I am not up to speed on how type ratings work, just hoping that someone might be able to help me figure it out.

 

[Bandit60]

Excuse me if I am observing the obvious here. There are distinct types involved here. Refer to AC61-89E, Appendix 2 as can be found at:

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/1ab39b4ed563b08985256a35006d56af/e6f473d2ab86c8cc86256ab600731af2/$FILE/Ac61-89e.pdf

There is a type for the BE-1900 (BE1900, BE1900C, BE-1900D, and the Military C-12J), the BE200 (BE-200T/BE-200TC), BE-300FF (BE-300FF), and another for the BE-300 (BE300, BE-300LW, BE-350, BE-B300). In all, there are four or five different type ratings for the aircraft you mentioned.

WRONG----The King Air 200 Does not require a type rating

 

[Andy Neill]

Bandit60,

Did you refer to the AC? Note that this is for the BE-200T and the BE-200TC, not the vanilla BE-200. Care to revise your remarks?

 

[deskjobssuck]

Andy
Thanks for the circular. Guess that does answer my question about the types. I was wondering about this 'cause a few years ago I had a friend who was able to skip school on the 200 due to his 1900 training for another company. Really just trying to figure out options for the future.

 

[FracCapt]

Two quick questions for you.

1) I've got a Beech 1900 type rating. How does this relate, if at all, to flying other King Airs? Would differences training apply to be able to fly a Be20 for a 135 operator, or would it be a completely different aircraft. Also, how does my type relate to the 300/350 types?

Assuming your type rating says BE1900, it counts as absolutely squat as far as the 300 series. Of course, the 200's do not require a type rating - except for the rare version that I believe was made for military operations.

Based on your total time, I'm assuming you did not get your Beech 1900 type rating more than about 7 years ago. If so, then it's a BE02 type...which is good for the 1900, 200, 300, 350. It was about 7 years ago that the FAA decided to split it up - up until then, they were all a common type rating.

If you get into a 200, 300, or 350 - you will feel right at home. With some minor systems differences that can be covered in a couple hours, they are essentially the same cockpit. The 1900 is just a King Air on steroids, with a bunch of Beech BandAids(all the extra crap hanging off the tail). Of course, to act as PIC in the 300/350, you would have to have the type rating.

 

[TimsKeeper]

I have been told years ago that the 1900 and 300/350 type were compatible but not anymore.

Anyway, if you flew the 1900 the 200 is no problem at all. The 200 in my opinion is easier than the 90.

Also, there is a type rating on some King Air 200's because the military operates at gross weights over 12500. When they turned civilian you had to have the type.

 

[cptsesso]

The fact of the matter is, it all depends on the insurance company, period. If they will accept your experience in the 1900 as equal to the 200, no school. If they will not, then you are off to king air 200 school for an initial or a recurrent. I think they may give you a grace period of a few months and then reqire you to go to school.

For the 300/350, I think you will definitely be going to school for the type.

You guys should know by now that the FAA is not the "ultimate authority", the insurance companies dictate which aircraft you can and are able to fly.

Just my thoughts.

 

[deskjobssuck]

Verrry interesting. Seems to have the ring of truth to it.