King Air 200 FO or Merlin SW4 FO???

[Rick1128]

Newsouth,

As far as the FAA is concerned, as long as the aircraft requires two pilots, either by certification or regulation, the time qualifies for higher ratings. And even if the aircraft and PIC are single pilot qualified, if the company assigns a SIC to the aircraft, then the SIC can log the time. Even on so called '91' legs. By regulation, for a pilot to be assigned as a SIC the pilot must meet all qualification and training requirements and pass a checkride.

As for an interview, if the interviewer asks about your SIC time in a Baron or some such, you show him your copy of your 8410, (you do keep them, don't you?) and that is pretty much the end of that question.

 

[NEWSOUTH]

OK, if this is factual then I stand corrected. Sounds like you know what your talking about. Thank you for correcting my shot in the dark.

 

[celloman]

I think this is a quality of hours question. I really think the question that should be asked is how this time is going to look on my resume in the future!

I don’t know how it works in Canada but in the US any one can PAY for a 402 SIC check out and log that time... The time looks VERY poor on a resume.

A person can also get a SIC check out and log the time in a king Air that is cert for single person ops. Now this time is MUCH better than pft it still does not look as good IMHO!

So I think the best bet would be for the metro, I also think the poster has the potential of learning a whole bunch from the metro. On the other hand I have also heard that the King Air and a hoot to fly..... Oh well, I can see how it would be a hard decision. Just my 2 cents.

Best of Luck!

 

[TailStall]

Cpt. Gab



Most companys in Canada fly the King Air 200 two crew, there for you will get the type rating of a BE20 on your license. You require the type rating because in Canada the BE20 is considered a high performance A/C.

The Metro also requires a type rating, which will allow you to log time from which ever A/C you choose.

I also fly for a large charter company in Canada and if you would like to private message me I would gladlly try to help you make a decision.

Good luck

 

[JetPilot500]

Re: CVSfly

Good point about the 135.101 and 8410. I think I will stick to my guns though. If the plane does not require two pilots on certification then you can log SIC towards anything worth logging time for. The ops specs may require two pilots however, the plane does not. Therefore the time is worthless towards other ratings or total time requirement for other jobs ect..It may look good in your log book to you, but anyone else would be curious to see what else you have been logging in that thing.

Ok then....A Beech 1900 is a Single Pilot Airplane. However, airline Ops Specs required it to be flown with 2 pilots. So are you saying that during an interview, the airlines will not count the SIC time in a BE-1900? There is just about no difference between a BE-1900 and BE-200 except the size. So what is the difference here?

JetPilot500

 

[501261]

Jetpilot500, great post, and I personally know 2 pilots at COEX that received their ATP and EMB-135 type ratings using SIC time on a "single pilot" aircraft. 1, seniority number about 300, has 500 hours SIC in a 1900, and another, seniority number about 800, has 300 hours SIC in a King Air 200.

In both cases the 121 airline accepted this SIC time, and more importantly, the FAA accepted this SIC time as Flight time for their 1500 required for the ATP!

 

[501261]

Tailstall,

That's interesting that Canada requires a BE-20 type!

In the states you too can get a BE20 type, but it is very, very rare. You have to be flying an old Army 200 with a certified MTOW of 14,000#'s. Rare to find and even rarer to find someone typed in it!

 

[KingAirer]

Got a question about the 91 legs....If a company is based in PHL and picking up pax in PIT and going to ACY...I think many people are considering the empty leg from PHL to PIT to be 91...But wouldnt this be 135 as well becuase they are getting paid just like they are for the pit acy because that time is considered in the quote as well....An honest ?

 

[501261]

Nope, repositioning is considered 91! However, you have to include this in your duty time and it will count towards your 14 hours.

I think what people are getting confused with are the different issues with the regs. As far as flying and Logging of Flight Time it is definately considered 91. What has happened is some unscrupulous companies have tried to maintain that since this is a 91 flight it should not count towards 135 duty time requirements.