Jetstream 31

[WMUSIGPI]

Anyone have any advice on flying a J31? My new company is sending me to initial training for F/O then in about 3-6 months will be sending me back for a type rating. Any areas to focus on or certain things to be careful of specific to the J31?

 

[eddie]

Do a search, there is quite a bit of old info on this board about the mighty Jetsteam. If you can't find much under the aircraft name, try Corporate Airlines there was a discussion about the aircraft some time ago.

as far as advice, in the sim don't try to anticipate which engine they'll fail on the v1 cuts, you won't be able to fix it if you get it wrong.

Don't look away for very long or it will wander off course.

if the 31 is like the 32, and you have McCauley props, you will be able to drop like a rock out of the sky. A slam dunk is no problem with those props. The dowty's don't do quite the same thing.

Have fun!

 

[eddie]

I forgot to mention...bring your earplugs!

 

[Humphry]

Best peice of information is to keep the shiny side up! Good Luck!

 

[Launchpad]

Stare at the ADI.... flying the Sled is like trying to stand on a basketball.

 

[Flywrite]

Why is it that every time someone asks about the Jetstream the replies give the impression that the thing is just waiting to plummet out of control. I mean jeezzz...sure, it aint the easiest thing out there to fly, but it's not that bad.

 

[enigma]

It's been about five years since I flew the sled. It's a pig. Underpowered, slow, and marginally stable. It taxis like a drunk runs from the cops. The rudder pedals are not directly attached to the rudder, they attach to a torque tube that in turn attaches to the rudder. Meaning that your rudder always feels odd. It is short coupled in pitch and yaw. The control surface breakout forces are heavy, but it is almost unstable, a condition that produces an airplane which is continually diverging from heading and altitude but is hard to bring back to s and l. The "stink bug" sits at a negative angle of attack and takes a heavy pull on the yoke at rotation to overcome that negative angle of attack. Then, once it reaches a positive angle, the exess elevator makes you overrotate. Like I said, it's a pig. The best way to handle v1 cuts is to take the yoke in both hands, lock your elbows as best you can to prevent PIO in pitch, and apply the proper rudder. Some will say that the rudder must be immediately apply to the stop. I didn't find that to be the case, it may take full rudder, but stomping the rudder full over seems to set up a PIO in yaw. Just smoothly apply the required amount of rudder. And cheat on airspeed the best you can. If I could get by with it, I would almost always go five knots faster than Vr before I rotated. The extra airspeed helps.

The "sewer rat" has the reputation of being darn near impossible to fly. That is not correct. I didn't like the control harmony, control breakout forces, nor the instrumentation, but it is not an accident waiting to happen. It will however take more effort physically and mentally(attention), than anything else you've ever flown. (assuming that you don't fly cassuts or ford Trimotors)

Good Luck,
enigma

 

[CaSyndrm]

Having thousands of hours in the mighty Jetstream I feel qualified to say, "if you can fly the Jetstream simulator you can fly any airplane"

I have bags full of study materials including some flash cards that some entrepreneur made up years ago for sale to the community. I could make all available for the right incentive....

Good luck, if you can master the challenges of the Jetstream you will be able to master most all aircraft that will cross your path in the future.

 

[Flywrite]

I'll agree with the comment about the Jetstream sim...especially the one at IAD. Boy that thing is fun.