Islam Homeys sue US Airways

[The_Russian]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070313/ap_on_re_us/passengers_removed

 

[Fins Up]

I think the only thing that will help keep air travel safe is more profiling. As soon as the whites, asians, and (insert ethincity of your choice) start blowing up planes we'll hassle them too.

 

[MCDU]

The problem is with radical Muslims. They are the ones blowing themselves up throughout the world. (By the way, the majority of Muslims are Asian). Indonesia is the country with the most Muslims. Profile based on their religion and not by country. Many Lebanese are Christian for example. I feel bad for the muslim community, but the fact remains its radical muslims that are responsible for the worst and most terrorist attacks worldwide.

Marty

 

[Jonny Sacko]

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[ultrarunner]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

...profile till it hurts...

 

[Flyer1015]

Profile based on their religion and not by country. Many Lebanese are Christian for example.

And how do you tell apart a religion by looking at someone?

You're a TSA agent... in front of you a Lebanese man appears. Is he a Lebanese Christian or a Lebanese Muslim?

If he is a Lebanese Muslim, and he says he is a Lebanese Christian, how the he!! would you know if he's lying or not?

If you are gonna profile, it will have to be something besides religion... any person who is Muslim and pulled over on suspicion that they are muslim, will simply deny it. (It being that they are Muslim).

How will you prove they are Muslim if they say they aren't? What are you gonna force them to do to prove whether or not they are Muslim?

 

[MCDU]

Tell him to eat some pork.

 

[Flyer1015]

That having been said, this lawsuit is just wrong. I hope it gets dismissed.

 

[Flyer1015]

Tell him to eat some pork.

Nice. Remember those 9/11 hijackers? It was proven they were in a bar/nightclub the NIGHT before 9/11 2001.

Does that sound like a "Muslim" thing to you?

It was a real terrorist, he would eat pork in front of you JUST to throw you off (just like those 9/11 hijackers went to bars/night clubs).

 

[MCDU]

Profiling based on religion will not happen. But if another 9/11 type attack occurs by muslims, there will be intense profiling based on your faith. So, hopefully we do not get attacked and all will be fine.

 

[Flyer1015]

Profiling based on religion will not happen. But if another 9/11 type attack occurs by muslims, there will be intense profiling based on your faith. So, hopefully we do not get attacked and all will be fine.

Again, how do you tell apart faith?!

If someone walks in with an Allah locket on their necklace, and a "I am a Muslim" T shirt, then yeah, they are Muslim.


But how do you tell someone is a Muslim just by looking at him?

And don't say something as ignorant as "look for a turban." Lots of turban wearing people are Sikhs, and those are not Muslims.

I have many Lebanese and Jordanian friends, all are either Christian or Muslim. I still can't tell them apart unless they had told me so.

Even their names could go either way. "David" Ummm, Ok? Christian or Muslim?



I challenge you to find a way of determining if a person is a Muslim simply by looking at him.

 

[Wiskey Driver]

I think the only thing that will help keep air travel safe is more profiling. As soon as the whites, asians, and (insert ethincity of your choice) start blowing up planes we'll hassle them too.

Be careful Fins, it wasn't that long ago that a fed building was blown up in this country by none other than caucasian males, two very sick caucasian males at that!!!

I'm not a fan of profiling but I just don't know what else to do in this case.

WD.

 

[Ex737Driver]

Kill 'em all and let God sort them out.................

 

[ultrarunner]

Be careful Fins, it wasn't that long ago that a fed building was blown up in this country by none other than caucasian males, two very sick caucasian males at that!!!

You never studied....

Mr. McVeigh and Mr. Nichols were funded by and working for muslim extremists. This wasn't a white-boy operation. It's goes WAY beyond that...farther than you can imagine.

 

[NEDude]

What about that white former math professor who lived in a shack in Montana. He put a bomb on an American Airlines plane back in the 70's.

 

[ultrarunner]

I will concede that from time to time you're going to get a uni-bomber type, and the occasional pro-life blowing up a thing or two, but generally speaking these terrorists are working alone and for a personal agenda. They are not well funded, if at all, and typically do little killing, relatively speaking.

Not at all like other terrorist attacks on American soil.

 

[inline]

Be careful Fins, it wasn't that long ago that a fed building was blown up in this country by none other than caucasian males, two very sick caucasian males at that!!!

I'm not a fan of profiling but I just don't know what else to do in this case.

WD.

But there's not a pattern of white males committing terrorist acts. The OKC bombing was an aberration. And while it's true most Muslims aren't terrorists, most terrorists are Muslim.

 

[ERJDRVR]

But there's not a pattern of white males committing terrorist acts. The OKC bombing was an aberration. And while it's true most Muslims aren't terrorists, most terrorists are Muslim.

Well of course there is the IRA

 

[spanky2]

For more on the hypocricy of Islam, go to: www.TheReligionofPeace.com.

 

[Flyer1015]

But there's not a pattern of white males committing terrorist acts. The OKC bombing was an aberration. And while it's true most Muslims aren't terrorists, most terrorists are Muslim.

I'm trying to count how many Muslim terrorist attacks we've had on our US homesoil, the 50 US states. 9/11, and 1993 WTC bombing. Anything else? Tim McVeigh was one. Pretty close count if you ask me (though of course a larger amount of deaths during 9/11).

 

[BigMeat]

Rapists, murderers, 35 year old guys beating up 101 year old granny's. Those are terrorists too.

 

[Guitar rocker]

Again, how do you tell apart faith?!

If someone walks in with an Allah locket on their necklace, and a "I am a Muslim" T shirt, then yeah, they are Muslim.


But how do you tell someone is a Muslim just by looking at him?

And don't say something as ignorant as "look for a turban." Lots of turban wearing people are Sikhs, and those are not Muslims.

I have many Lebanese and Jordanian friends, all are either Christian or Muslim. I still can't tell them apart unless they had told me so.

Even their names could go either way. "David" Ummm, Ok? Christian or Muslim?



I challenge you to find a way of determining if a person is a Muslim simply by looking at him.

Unfortunately, profiling is based on what yah look like.... Who cares about religion or faith....look at how they do it in Tel Aviv.....I watched a special on TV and they interviewed some of the profilers at the airport in Tel Aviv and if you even look like your of middle eastern descent, your getting pulled over....simple as that. It might not be the most fair system but their "hi jack" rate is pretty low. That being said, should we be worried about fairness or safety??? I throw my vote in for safety....and I know others will say thats not what this country is about. Tel Aviv has security....our system of security is just a joke. Here we are worried about if yah got more than 3oz of sun tan lotion all the while the airport employees are smuggling guns/drugs on an airliner (as most recently happened in MCO was it).

TSA employees now have to learn the cultural differences of Muslims. So that way, the Imams thing wont happen again and we can write suspicous activity off as a cultural difference. Unfortunately, it is only the minority of Muslims that are causing problems in the world today and they create collatoral damage to their own people in doing so. But the TSA is there for our security and safety...not to get a lesson in sociology and be lenient on a certain group of people either so as to be politically correct and prevent law suits. That truly is the exact opposite of profiling. Being politically correct is going to cost the lives of Americans in the future. Hate to say it, but we had best start taking this seriously and not worrying so much about offending others.

 

[jj21211]

This tool lawyer defending these imams is just another muslim apologist, CAIR propagandist with the FBI and the ACLU on their speed-dial. USAirways should fight this thing or there will be a parade of similar occurances from now on.

+1 on religionofpeace.com

 

[Flyer1015]

Don't get your panties in a wad folks, this case won't last, or it will get shot down.

Back to your regularly scheduled b*tching now...

 

[jj21211]

I now return to bitching......(and how do you know about my panties?)

This just in...
In "The Real Target of the 6 Imams’ Discrimination Suit" in the Star Tribune, Katherine Kersten repeats what I have maintained from the beginning: that the entire Flying Imams incident is an attempt to get religious profiling outlawed, thus giving jihadists a free hand in airports -- no matter how suspiciously they are acting, officials will be afraid to question them.
Note also that the Flying Imams' lawsuit wants to sue the passengers who complained about their activity also.

Their lawsuit appears to be the latest component in a national campaign to intimidate airlines and government agencies from acting prudently to ensure passenger safety. The Council on American-Islamic Relations, which is advising the imams, is also calling for congressional hearings and promoting federal legislation to “end racial profiling” in air travel. If the legislation passes, airport personnel who disproportionately question passengers who are Muslim or of Middle Eastern origin could be subject to sanctions. But the most alarming aspect of the imams’ suit is buried in paragraph 21 of their complaint. It describes “John Doe” defendants whose identity the imams’ attorneys are still investigating. It reads: “Defendants ‘John Does’ were passengers … who contacted U.S. Airways to report the alleged ’suspicious’ behavior of Plaintiffs’ performing their prayer at the airport terminal.”
Paragraph 22 adds: “Plaintiffs will seek leave to amend this Complaint to allege true names, capacities, and circumstances supporting [these defendants’] liability … at such time as Plaintiffs ascertain the same.”
In plain English, the imams plan to sue the “John Does,” too.
Who are these unnamed culprits? The complaint describes them as “an older couple who was sitting [near the imams] and purposely turn[ed] around to watch” as they prayed. “The gentleman (’John Doe’) in the couple … picked up his cellular phone and made a phone call while watching the Plaintiffs pray,” then “moved to a corner” and “kept talking into his cellular phone.”
In retribution for this action, the unnamed couple probably will be dragged into court soon and face the prospect of hiring a lawyer, enduring hostile questioning and paying huge legal bills. The same fate could await other as-yet-unnamed passengers on the US Airways flight who came forward as witnesses.
The imams’ attempt to bully ordinary passengers marks an alarming new front in the war on airline security. Average folks, “John Does” like you and me, initially observed and reported the imams’ suspicious behavior on Nov. 20. Such people are our “first responders” against terrorism. But the imams’ suit may frighten such individuals into silence, as they seek to avoid the nightmare of being labeled bigots and named as defendants.
Ironically, on the day the imams filed their suit, a troubling internal memo came to light at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport. The memo revealed that our airport is at particular risk of terrorist attack because of its proximity to the Mall of America, its employment of relatively few security officers and other factors. The memo advised heightened vigilance to counter “this very real and deliberate threat.”
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[acarpe3448]

Nice. Remember those 9/11 hijackers? It was proven they were in a bar/nightclub the NIGHT before 9/11 2001.

Does that sound like a "Muslim" thing to you?

It was a real terrorist, he would eat pork in front of you JUST to throw you off (just like those 9/11 hijackers went to bars/night clubs).

I think those wimps were horney and knew that it was the last chance for a piece! Thats why they were calling hookers and watching pornos!

 

[spanky2]

PT,
While not all were on "US Soil" the following attacks were against Americans:
1. 9-11 - all 19 hijackers were MULSIM
2. Marine Barracks - Beirut
3. USS Cole
4. World Trade Center Bombing - 1993 (US Soil)
5. Khobar Towers - Saudi
6. Riyad Compound - Saudi
7. Richard Reid Shoe Bomber - failed
8. Daniel Pearl - beheaded

etc, etc

You just don't get it. Back to putting your head in the sand.

 

[Flyer1015]

PT,
While not all were on "US Soil" the following attacks were against Americans:
1. 9-11 - all 19 hijackers were MULSIM
2. Marine Barracks - Beirut
3. USS Cole
4. World Trade Center Bombing - 1993 (US Soil)
5. Khobar Towers - Saudi
6. Riyad Compound - Saudi
7. Richard Reid Shoe Bomber - failed
8. Daniel Pearl - beheaded

etc, etc

You just don't get it. Back to putting your head in the sand.

1 and 4 I already mentioned as attacks on the US soil.

2, 3, 5, 6, are Americans being attacked while stationed in the Middle East. Again, these attacks were not in the 48/continental US states. Now we can argue about foreign policy in the Middle East to explore the hatred that exists there. That's a whole different debate for a whole different forum.

7, yah, bad guy... but hey, Richard Reid sounds "American" enough... don't pull him over, right?

8, yes, Jewish reporter in karachi in a radical Muslim neighborhood. Sucks for him, no doubt.

You're missing my point. I was solely talking about attacks WITHIN the 48 US states.

 

[Guitar rocker]

Nice. Remember those 9/11 hijackers? It was proven they were in a bar/nightclub the NIGHT before 9/11 2001.

Does that sound like a "Muslim" thing to you?

It was a real terrorist, he would eat pork in front of you JUST to throw you off (just like those 9/11 hijackers went to bars/night clubs).

Real Muslim thing to do??? Why do you think real Muslims go to the UAE??? Shed off the towels/curtains, get hammered and hit it. When they are done, back on with the curtains and they all go home and pretend that it never happened. Kinda like a double standard...but thats the way it works over there.

 

[Flyer1015]

Real Muslim thing to do??? Why do you think real Muslims go to the UAE??? Shed off the towels/curtains, get hammered and hit it. When they are done, back on with the curtains and they all go home and pretend that it never happened. Kinda like a double standard...but thats the way it works over there.

The UAE is very westernized, especially Dubai (you would know that if you've been there). You'll note they have a HUGE population of expats... Europeans, Australians, Canadians, Americans, etc. That place will continue to get even more westernized to attract foreigners.