International Jumpseating

[beech1900kid]

Who knows the real deal with the new TSA regs on Int'l jumpseating? I have so many different opinions on the subject. Some people think that TSA has stated no more int'l jumpseating into the us, others seem to think you need a 24-hour advance notification with the airline. Anyone know the real deal?

 

[mckpickle]

The problem is that each airline has a PSI.....Same thing as a POI from the FAA. Well each one of these PSI's are responsible for interpreting and implementing the security directives. Thats why it's different for each airline.

 

[House_X]

Who knows the real deal with the new TSA regs on Int'l jumpseating? I have so many different opinions on the subject. Some people think that TSA has stated no more int'l jumpseating into the us, others seem to think you need a 24-hour advance notification with the airline. Anyone know the real deal?

The only time you need to list 24hr advance on the manifest is if we are on ORANGE alert. Other than that, jumpseating to Rome is just like regular ole jumpseating. Pilots do it all the time, it's no big deal. No special proceedures.

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

Departure tax is the biggest hassle!

I jumped out of MMX Mexico City. The loads were tight on United and AA. I paid the $40 tax on United that departed 10 minutes after AA. I paid the AA tax and went to the gate. You can't get the JS without the tax. If you don't get on the flight you have to go back outside of security to get a refund and pay the tax on the next flight, even if it is on the same carrier. You can only get the refund at the ticket counter where the tax was paid.

I got on the earlier AA flight and donated the $40 to United. If the loads are light it's no problem, but the process can be troublesome. You can't pay the tax at the gate and you have to pay it for each individual flight.

 

[beech1900kid]

thanks for the info. I didn't know it was only while on orange alert.

 

[767200]

Has anyone jumpseated to Argentina or southern southamerica? Looking to go there and not to sure to buy a pass or jumpseat

 

[Flash]

As far as the latest TSA rule, alert status was not a factor. The 24 hr advance list is for riding in the cockpit jumpseat on inbound flights to the U.S. Ask your jumpseat people for the latest update.

 

[House_X]

As far as the latest TSA rule, alert status was not a factor. The 24 hr advance list is for riding in the cockpit jumpseat on inbound flights to the U.S. Ask your jumpseat people for the latest update.

Thanks for the update on the TSA info. Most of us can only ride in the cockpit of the airline we work for (Delta, AA, United etc).

 

[beech1900kid]

TSA has informed us that we are not allowed to have jumpseaters (in the cockpit) in or out of our international destinations. However, this does NOT include FAA or TSA of course!

I tried to jumpseat out of CYVR recently, the Capt had given his approval...security would not allow it....I got bumped!

That's the exact situation I ran into. The gate agent gave me all kinds of hassles about the jumpseat, then found a supervisor, paid the tax, and could not get through security. Finally asked to talk to someone in charge, and he stated that inbound US flights could not take jumpseaters per TSA. That baffled me. I was pissed to say the least. Was he wrong?

 

[Flash]

Disp 121, I'm not sure who you work for but it seems that someone in mgmt may have misinterpreted the new ruling. (I'm sure this is the first time something like this has ever happened!) I myself cannot jumpseat on US Air inbound intl because there is no way to list in advance for the express carriers. It is still allowed outbound though. I may be able to dig up a copy of the TSA directive, but the purpose of it was to keep the bad guys/girls like us from getting into the U.S.; going to Paris etc, the U.S./TSA doesn't care. Maybe the French mind us coming in though "garcon, an order of freedom fries please"