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That's the way most people say it, but it's not completely accurate. You can instruct with no medical at all as long as you are not a =required crewmember=. Of course that includes PIC, but in also includes other functions. For example, a CFI with no medical can't act as safety pilot and so is limited in teaching instruments in the air.Not grey at all, you can instruct with no medical at all also. As long as you are not PIC
midlifeflyer said:I'm curious. What's your definition of "grey"? There's nothing unclear about the way the FAR is written.
nosehair said:..eeehh, he doesn't have a "grey" area, he just heard somewhere that an instructor can instruct with a 3rd class. He hasn't looked at the regs recently. Now it is spelled out clearly in black and white in 61.23. However, this same person will be confused with the concept of "instructing while NOT acting as PIC". That goes back to the days when you did not log PIC when there was an instructor on board. The instructor was ALWAYS the PIC. He is probably still living in that time. The times, they are a'changin'.
HangerRat said:Why would you not log PIC when there was instructor on board? The instructor is the PIC. . .but you can still log PIC also, if you are rated in the aircraft.
Lear Lackey said:How about instructing based on the ATP (yes the scenario is in the proper context of instruction for an air carrier 135/121 in the airplane)? The ATP does not have any current CFI certs. Does he need a 3rd or since it is a privelage of the ATP does he need to hold a 1st class?