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Illegal trip... need advice urgently.

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jebd7

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Hello,

My boss has assigned me a trip to fly a single engine aricraft this weekend, unfortunately I only hold commercial multi, not commercial single. (My boss is aware that I don't have the rating.)

It is pretty much "fly the trip or you're fired", what the heck do I do? If I quit or get fired it will be a very long time before I get a flying job again (only 1300 TT)
 
jebd7 said:
If I quit or get fired it will be a very long time before I get a flying job again (only 1300 TT)

However, you'll likely never fly again if you get caught.

Before you decide whether or not to fly the trip, look for alternatives that remove the problem - swapping the trip with another pilot in your outfit who is SE rated, suggesting another aircraft for the trip, etc. I don't know the specifics of your company, so you'll have to investigate.

Finally, if your boss is willing to ask you to fly an illegal trip, he is probably doing illegal/wrong things in other areas which already put you and your career at risk. If he's looking for a reason to terminate you or make you quit, he'll find it. Do you really want to risk your life/career for him?

I wish you success!

btw - I don't have a single engine ticket either
 
What does the little man inside you say, usually your first instinct is the correct one.

Dont get busted for a jacka$$ that doesnt give a hoot about you.

The only person looking out for you is you, you are your first line of defence.

There will be other jobs.
 
Here is an idea: Is it possible to do the flight and not recieve compensation, I'm sure you have a private single. I know it is crappy to not get paid for working, but it would be worse to recieve some FAA action against you; and may be better than getting fired. (Or at least you can make it look like you weren't paid for it on PAPER). good luck.
 
Write up a nice letter to your nearest FSDO, and show it to him. Promise to mail it if he fires you.

This job sometimes requires that level of sand. You can earn your year's pay sometimes by sticking to your principles and accepting the consequences. There's lots of NTSB reports about guys that didn't. Find yourself a copy of the details of the Aaliyah crash, for example.

And if you fly the trip - it would be an airtight enforcement case - not "if," but "how much." No way to claim it was just a mistake.
 
Not being compensated monetarily is not by itself a solution. Also not logging the flight time would help, but bottom line is you're asking for trouble.

In addition to what others have already said, assuming you do the trip, is this guy someone you want holding that kind of information over your head? Probably not.

I've worked hard for my certificates, and I wouldn't let any jerk put them in danger. My personal opinion, I would look for a legal alternative as Bill suggested, and if I found none I'd walk before I'd do the trip. If I found an option that allowed me to fly the tip, I'd still be actively looking for other employment.

Best of luck.
 
Moondog

Read the Moondog Acadmey book
 
very simple solution

1. stealthfully break the single engine airplane, so that it can't fly. if you break it good enough, it should buy you enough time to get your SE add on. you really should have that anyway. better than breaking it, just take a few minutes and FIND a reason that it is not airworthy. i am sure that there is one, if you look hard enough. THEN type a similar letter to the one listed in a previous post to show the fsdo if your a-hole boss fires you for not flying an un-airworthy plane.

2. begin looking for another job asap.

how did you get into this mess? how did you get hired to do a commercial job which might include SE flights w/o out the proper certification. didn't your boss look at your credentials? if he does know you are not qualified and is insisting you make the flight, that sucks. i would quit over that, rather than do something that would put your career at risk. does your boss realize that his insurance would laugh all day long when asked to pay a claim on any accident that resulted from your proposed flight? he has liability in this too, and maybe if he understood that he wouldn't be pushing you to break the rules.
 
Did you think of just doing your single engine add on? I think it was the easiest check ride I had. That way you get to fly the trip, get paid, log it, & you now have an additional rating to boot. Just a thought...

'canfly
 

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