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Im about to do my long IFR xcountry trip, the 61.65 states that it has be 250nm. is there any amount of leeway on this? I plan on going from jqf to lex with a distance of 245nm. is this ok or should i go somewhere else? thanks
 
The regs say 250nm along airways or ATC-directed routing, not straight line distance. Is your 245nm flight straight line distance? You need three airports anyway, so add in another stop to an airport along the way and you will be fine.
 
Isn't your CFII suggesting a route for this dual flight? I think most do.

Besides, aren't you coming back? I think you need to re-read the rule. The 250 NM is the routing distance for the entire flight, not the straight-line difference one way. Sounds like you are heading much further than you are required to.

Hey timeoff, that avatar is hysterical.

(BTW, it doesn't need to be three different airports, just three different types of approaches)
 
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Dual X-ctry under IFR

Total distance needs to be 250 NM

One leg that is at least 100 NM

An instrument approach at each airport

At least 3 different approaches
 
3 different types of approaches, not just three approahes.

And I would agree that you can count not just the straight line distance but also the distance req'd to fly the approach. So flying an ILS with a DME arc can add significant distance, then again, I wouldn't cut it so close that you find yourself adding up the dme arc in front of the examiner.
 
yea, I think some of you are confusing this with the long one for Commercial. The instrument one is 3 different approaches, and the commercial one is 3 airports, with the straight line of 250
 
Dual X-ctry under IFR

Total distance needs to be 250 NM

One leg that is at least 100 NM

An instrument approach at each airport

At least 3 different approaches
I don't see a 100 NM leg requirement in the regulation.

61.65(d)(iii)
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For an instrument -- airplane rating, instrument training on cross-country flight procedures specific to airplanes that includes at least one cross-country flight in an airplane that is performed under IFR, and consists of -
(A) A distance of at least 250 nautical miles along airways or ATC-directed routing;
(B) An instrument approach at each airport; and
(C) Three different kinds of approaches with the use of navigation systems;
==============================

the usual point of landing more that 50 NM from the original point of departure that is required for all cross countries for certificate and ratings (other than ATP) should do it.


Are you referring to something else?
 
Dual X-ctry under IFR

Total distance needs to be 250 NM

One leg that is at least 100 NM [incorrect]

An instrument approach at each airport

At least 3 different approaches

CORRECTION.

I just checked the electronic FAR's and there doesn't seem to be a minimum leg distance. Weird, I don't know where I got that from. Was this requirement changed or was I thinking of another reg? It's been a while.
 
CORRECTION.

I just checked the electronic FAR's and there doesn't seem to be a minimum leg distance. Weird, I don't know where I got that from. Was this requirement changed or was I thinking of another reg? It's been a while.

Maybe you're getting confused with the cross-country requirements for the commercial certificate, I think there is a reg stating you have to have a leg at least 100 nm. I might be wrong about that though, I don't have the energy to look it up.
 

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