If he can switch?

[Lollie]

My spouse has the opportunity to appply for a larger corporate that's got lot's of perks(of course-monetarily greater than the reg-airlines), and we can possibly now stay at least on the west coast. Given all the money differences, I'm kind of shocked that he's holding off, why fly as a capt'n with all the responsibility when you can be an FO at a corporate for the same wages! Any comments? (do you think he want's the title?)

 

[G100driver]

He is probably enjoying lots of promiscuous consequence free sex with random flight attendants.

 

[LAZYB]

Ditto

 

[charter dog]

Hi Lollie.

While stepping from PIC to SIC may be a factor, it is likely just one of many factors affecting his feelings on the matter. Here are some other considerations. Please keep in mind that since I do not know your mate, these considerations are ones that I might have under similar circumstances. Hopefully, my input will just give you some things to think about.

1) Change is not something most of us look forward to! The need for a change must outweigh the consequences of remaining status quo. Though some people may like change for the sake of change, most pro pilots do not, and will do so only for a compelling reason, usually related to achieving self-set goals. The self-image of a professional pilot is in large part tied to personal success and accomplishment. If he really sees this as a step forward, he may come to embrace this change of lifestyle and position. If however, he sees this as simply accepting the money and giving up what he has worked for, mixed feelings are inevitable. Everyone would like to have more money. But money is just one of many components of career satisfaction.

2) Corporate flying is a completely different world than airline flying. In airline flying, you fly with different people all the time. In corporate, you fly with the same people all the time. Personalities play a much larger role in your working life than in the airlines. This can be good or bad but is usually both! Typically there is far less flying and in some departments, many ancillary duties required of flight department personnel. Sometimes they are not even flying related. Some flight departments operate on a stable schedule, while others are less predictable than many charter jobs. The fortunes of corporate flight departments can turn on a dime. they go in and out of existence with the fortunes of and are subject to the vagaries of financial decisions made in closed boardrooms. As good as the pay may be, heavy international travel may be required, and it may be required on short notice or so that personal plans must cancelled or postponed. Some companies are more demanding than others. Some are even known to be quite accommodating in this regard. If QOL is important to both of you, it really pays to know what you are getting into. The best way to do this is to know someone on the inside pretty well and find out as much as possible without jeopardizing the deal.

Look, this is a huge change. don't be too quick to doubt your spouse's motives in not moving real quickly on this. There is plenty to consider and he is no doubt aware of all I have said and much more. I know a couple of airline types who have made similar transitions after being furloughed. For them, it was the right thing to do since they had the opportunity to work for a good wage instead of starting at the bottom at another airline. In spite of the current situation at the airlines, it must be difficult for someone who did so much to attain his position to give it up for something new. Much happiness to both of you.

Best,

 

[Lollie]

Switching

Hi Lollie.

While stepping from PIC to SIC may be a factor, it is likely just one of many factors affecting his feelings on the matter. Here are some other considerations. Please keep in mind that since I do not know your mate, these considerations are ones that I might have under similar circumstances. Hopefully, my input will just give you some things to think about.

1) Change is not something most of us look forward to! The need for a change must outweigh the consequences of remaining status quo. Though some people may like change for the sake of change, most pro pilots do not, and will do so only for a compelling reason, usually related to achieving self-set goals. The self-image of a professional pilot is in large part tied to personal success and accomplishment. If he really sees this as a step forward, he may come to embrace this change of lifestyle and position. If however, he sees this as simply accepting the money and giving up what he has worked for, mixed feelings are inevitable. Everyone would like to have more money. But money is just one of many components of career satisfaction.

2) Corporate flying is a completely different world than airline flying. In airline flying, you fly with different people all the time. In corporate, you fly with the same people all the time. Personalities play a much larger role in your working life than in the airlines. This can be good or bad but is usually both! Typically there is far less flying and in some departments, many ancillary duties required of flight department personnel. Sometimes they are not even flying related. Some flight departments operate on a stable schedule, while others are less predictable than many charter jobs. The fortunes of corporate flight departments can turn on a dime. they go in and out of existence with the fortunes of and are subject to the vagaries of financial decisions made in closed boardrooms. As good as the pay may be, heavy international travel may be required, and it may be required on short notice or so that personal plans must cancelled or postponed. Some companies are more demanding than others. Some are even known to be quite accommodating in this regard. If QOL is important to both of you, it really pays to know what you are getting into. The best way to do this is to know someone on the inside pretty well and find out as much as possible without jeopardizing the deal.

Look, this is a huge change. don't be too quick to doubt your spouse's motives in not moving real quickly on this. There is plenty to consider and he is no doubt aware of all I have said and much more. I know a couple of airline types who have made similar transitions after being furloughed. For them, it was the right thing to do since they had the opportunity to work for a good wage instead of starting at the bottom at another airline. In spite of the current situation at the airlines, it must be difficult for someone who did so much to attain his position to give it up for something new. Much happiness to both of you.

Best,

Thanks for honestly replying with the utmost respect to me and mine.

 

[Daveman]

Ditto

yea brah

 

[Dangerkitty]

My spouse has the opportunity to appply for a larger corporate that's got lot's of perks(of course-monetarily greater than the reg-airlines), and we can possibly now stay at least on the west coast. Given all the money differences, I'm kind of shocked that he's holding off, why fly as a capt'n with all the responsibility when you can be an FO at a corporate for the same wages! Any comments? (do you think he want's the title?)

Over 10 days ago you started a thread titled, "My hubby says Coroprate is for the birds."

Now you ask about flying Corporate and state that you hubby might start flying for a large Flight Department?

MissKittyKat is that you?

 

[Lollie]

MissKittyKat

Over 10 days ago you started a thread titled, "My hubby says Coroprate is for the birds."

Now you ask about flying Corporate and state that you hubby might start flying for a large Flight Department?

MissKittyKat is that you?

I'm sorry, who?

 

[Dangerkitty]

I'm sorry, who?

Exactly.

 

[Dinger]

What is a corporate? pay, QOL? Sorry, couldn't refuse.

 

[Lollie]

Let me consult my alter Ego.

Exactly.

MrsKittyKat, r u me?. . . . .still waiting for a response.

 

[Wolf King]

Lollie,

Your posts have been so manic over time that it is easy to see why people think you might be miss kitty. At least you speak in complete sentences, so I don't believe this to be the case.

I have seen your posts all over the place, everything from whining about how horrible your life with your pilot husband is, should you leave him or move to some other place. He hates corporate, he might take a corporate position, he just got a new job, he is now suddenly a captain. You are now on meds, up, down all around.

You ask unanswerable questions about why or why not your husband might do or say something.... here's a novel idea: instead of posting strange, meaningless drivel here (my hat's off to those that actually take the time to post a well thought out answer to a person who has the thought processes of a petulant 14 year old girl), why not just have an adult conversation with your poor hubby.

Better yet, why not get off the computer, get out of the house, and pursue a career or life direction of your own?

If anyone thinks I am just rude here, do a search of Lollie's previous post and you will surely agree that she is just another bored flamebaiter, another clueless housewife with no reason or accountability, or perhaps another 14 year old taking a break from posting her self centered personal meanderings on my space.

Oh, wait. Here's my favorite Lollie post, hopefully the link will work. So far we have a depressed, spiteful, chronic complainer and malingerer. Where can I sign up for one of these?

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=75912

 

[Lollie]

Welcome...to.. the way...

Lollie,

Your posts have been so manic over time that it is easy to see why people think you might be miss kitty. At least you speak in complete sentences, so I don't believe this to be the case.

I have seen your posts all over the place, everything from whining about how horrible your life with your pilot husband is, should you leave him or move to some other place. He hates corporate, he might take a corporate position, he just got a new job, he is now suddenly a captain. You are now on meds, up, down all around.

You ask unanswerable questions about why or why not your husband might do or say something.... here's a novel idea: instead of posting strange, meaningless drivel here (my hat's off to those that actually take the time to post a well thought out answer to a person who has the thought processes of a petulant 14 year old girl), why not just have an adult conversation with your poor hubby.

Better yet, why not get off the computer, get out of the house, and pursue a career or life direction of your own?

If anyone thinks I am just rude here, do a search of Lollie's previous post and you will surely agree that she is just another bored flamebaiter, another clueless housewife with no reason or accountability, or perhaps another 14 year old taking a break from posting her self centered personal meanderings on my space.

Oh, wait. Here's my favorite Lollie post, hopefully the link will work. So far we have a depressed, spiteful, chronic complainer and malingerer. Where can I sign up for one of these?

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=75912

WOMEN THINK

 

[AerroMatt]

Flame Bait

Lollie,

Your posts have been so manic over time that it is easy to see why people think you might be miss kitty. At least you speak in complete sentences, so I don't believe this to be the case.

I have seen your posts all over the place, everything from whining about how horrible your life with your pilot husband is, should you leave him or move to some other place. He hates corporate, he might take a corporate position, he just got a new job, he is now suddenly a captain. You are now on meds, up, down all around.

You ask unanswerable questions about why or why not your husband might do or say something.... here's a novel idea: instead of posting strange, meaningless drivel here (my hat's off to those that actually take the time to post a well thought out answer to a person who has the thought processes of a petulant 14 year old girl), why not just have an adult conversation with your poor hubby.

Better yet, why not get off the computer, get out of the house, and pursue a career or life direction of your own?

If anyone thinks I am just rude here, do a search of Lollie's previous post and you will surely agree that she is just another bored flamebaiter, another clueless housewife with no reason or accountability, or perhaps another 14 year old taking a break from posting her self centered personal meanderings on my space.

Oh, wait. Here's my favorite Lollie post, hopefully the link will work. So far we have a depressed, spiteful, chronic complainer and malingerer. Where can I sign up for one of these?

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=75912

Wolf King,

You are 100% accurate about this one. I only started seeing her posts about a month or so ago, and now she's close to passing my mark in posts. This one's either bored, desperate, psychotic, or all three combined. More likely she's that 14 year old taking the break from MySpace as you mentioned. It takes a substantial amount of time to post all this stuff, and she's been extremely active during the past week. I guess that means school's out for summer.

FI.com appears to have removed one of her flames from the Corp postings, "You Corporate Pilots Rock". It was clearly engineered to get guys to PM her, even if they knew her previous posts where she claimed to be the wife of an airline pilot.

 

[Lollie]

So your all confused..

Wolf King,

You are 100% accurate about this one. I only started seeing her posts about a month or so ago, and now she's close to passing my mark in posts. This one's either bored, desperate, psychotic, or all three combined. More likely she's that 14 year old taking the break from MySpace as you mentioned. It takes a substantial amount of time to post all this stuff, and she's been extremely active during the past week. I guess that means school's out for summer.

FI.com appears to have removed one of her flames from the Corp postings, "You Corporate Pilots Rock". It was clearly engineered to get guys to PM her, even if they knew her previous posts where she claimed to be the wife of an airline pilot.

Maybe I'm some other diabolical Ego...can you hear the Jaws theme...."do do, do do....."

 

[I_Love_Lamp]

WOMEN THINK

Yep, like,

"How long do I usually cook the roast for?"

and

"What is a good way to get the stains out of the laundry?"

 

[Lollie]

Sorry don't eat..

Yep, like,

"How long do I usually cook the roast for?"

and

"What is a good way to get the stains out of the laundry?"

Roast, no Red Meat(remember I'm an Oregon Tree Hugger, many of us yuppies are vegan or vegetarian).

As for stains,Fels Napha Bars, your grandmother used it as regular laundry soap. And it's d@mn cheap.