I don't get it...

[Metro752]

in our dreams tho eh

 

[macfly]

It didn't used to be all about the money but let's be honest folks. As much fun as flying can be (we could debate all day about exactly how enjoyable it is to watch the autopilot follow the LNAV across the country for 2.5 hours at a time)... at some point we have to ask ourselves some serious questions.

Can I afford to buy a house?

Can I afford to buy a car?

Can I afford to pay off school loans and to live debt-free (with the exception of a mortgage)?

Am I putting away enough money to allow me to retire comfortably at 60?

Can I afford to have a child?

Can I afford to put some money away to help said-child through college?

Will I have anything to leave the child when I die?

Can we afford to take a family vacation once a year?

Sure, flying is fun. But nobody -- not ONE of us -- got into this profession with the goal of flying an RJ for 30 years while management whipsaws us into lower pay and worsening work-rules year after year.

At some point you have to wake-up and say, "Ok. Flying is fun, but maybe it's time to look at another segment of aviation, or perhaps look outside of aviation entirely, and simply fly as a hobby."

I dont blame those guys (except for the guy who is already whipped by his little girlfriend) one bit. Educated people make educated decisions based on reality -- not some romantic notion of what it's like to be a pilot.

Whaaaaaaaaaaa? Do a little research next time and know what your getting into. Why would you be asking these questions AFTER years of training and accepting some serious debt? The information is out there, crunch the numbers and answer those questions before its too late.

The guy thats qutting due to his girlfreind needs to grow a spine cause its obvious that he already lost his sack.

 

[BenderGonzales]

For some of us pal, we DID the research -- over a decade ago when the game was played by a different set of rules.

 

[AngelKing]

For some of us pal, we DID the research -- over a decade ago when the game was played by a different set of rules.

Touche, it was much different back in the 70s.


AK

 

[macfly]

For some of us pal, we DID the research -- over a decade ago when the game was played by a different set of rules.

Yeah the majors looked a bit stronger I suppose, I dont know about other segments - I was chasin skirts in college and graduating from high school.

My point was to always plan for the worst and hope for the best. It's my impression from these boards that the civilian route of the aviation ladder(121) will likely land you a regional flying job for the duration of your career and you should be prepared for such.

As for me personally, i was a pre 9/11 gung-ho, pro-pilot wannabe that reigned myself in after 9/11. I went back to college, got a bis degree and now im in the position to continue flying and working on ratings without swallowing tons of debt. I crunched the numbers and they didnt compute for 18k a year. It wasnt mathematically possible for me without living in a box.

I hope things improve for you guys that fly for a living.

 

[FN FAL]

I'm kinda glad that people are leaving this business. I suppose it's the first step in pulling this industry outta' the ********************ter.

If people keep leaving or deciding that the airline industry is unstable, eventually the airlines will have to go looking for the pilots.

Supply and Demand...

As people become more educated and are aware that this is not a stable career and choose a different career, then throw in the retirements, and the furloughs that never return to their job; one day you will have a shortage of pilots.

By the time I get to a regional, I'm hoping this is the case and there is a quick upgrade time, the pay has increased, and there is a better QOL.

Just my thoughts on it.

Yea, if they make the career crappy enough that people take early retirements or simply leave, you'll be able find your niche, eh?

 

[sperfly]

Cardinal has a good point, why encourage someone who is bitter to stick around and be bitter in a cockpit when you have hundreds of other people begging for the job. It's no secret that Reginal Airlines aren't high paying jobs at least not for the first few years. I was not happy in my other career and left it to sit in a King Air for hours on end, and I still think it beats the hell out of sitting on a Ditch Witch all day.