How long with Northwest fly the DC-9s?

[PhatAJ2008]

Saw on a website they have 130+ of those old birds still flying..

 

[TrafficInSight]

Don't knock it, it's paid for.

 

[PhatAJ2008]

not knocking it at all... I love flying those old birds

 

[TrafficInSight]

not knocking it at all... I love flying those old birds

I know It was a roundabout way of saying that they'll keep flying them as long as they can since buying new planes would put them in a worse position probably

 

[PhatAJ2008]

I don't understand T-Gates... I'm interested in older aircraft such as the DC-9, DC-10, and 727s that the Airlines used/still fly. How are questions about airline aircraft DISTURBING on a flight info board? If my post looked DISTURBING to you, you were free to NOT read it. I made it very clear what my topic was in my post.

 

[TrafficInSight]

Oh, snap!

 

[Av8rPHX]

Heh, looks like he also has posted another airlinets.net type thread entitled "DC-10"

 

[desnapper]

oh, snap! Did you mean Desnapper?

 

[ISaidRightTurns]

I bought my job. Paid for all my own training.

 

[PhatAJ2008]

I guess when you have nothing better to do, rediculing other posters' messages on a message board is what it was meant for too.. Oh well

 

[pilotyip]

There was an article a couple years ago about how smart NWA was in keeping its DC-9's. The article said: Since they are all paid for, they do not have to fly certain number of flights per day to break even on fixed cost. They can fly at only the variable cost of the flight and this gives them a lower break even load factor. This keeps the cycles down and extends their useful life. As they approach a heavy check, they seem to be parking them. This also allows them to keep unscheduled spares at their hubs to substitute in case of maintenance problem.

 

[Flechas]

The last one will retire in 2014.

 

[awacs941]

I agree with T.. search on google or here before you ask questions. That was a airliners.net thread

Brian

 

[NuGuy]

There was an article a couple years ago about how smart NWA was in keeping its DC-9's. The article said: Since they are all paid for, they do not have to fly certain number of flights per day to break even on fixed cost. They can fly at only the variable cost of the flight and this gives them a lower break even load factor. This keeps the cycles down and extends their useful life. As they approach a heavy check, they seem to be parking them. This also allows them to keep unscheduled spares at their hubs to substitute in case of maintenance problem.

Heyas all,
Pilotyip is correct. Actually, one of the things driving retirement is a very expensive AD on the aft pressure bulkhead. It comes due at 100,000 cycles. As DC-9s reach this limit, they are retired and parted out, because compliance with the AD, known as the "aft bulkhead mod" is too expensive to make sense. I know that NWA tech ops has researched several different variants of the mod, and none can be done economically.

But, the good news is that NWA went on a DC-9 buying spree in the 90's, and the average in the fleet is quite low cycle considering the airframe age. Fletchas information about the 2014 retirement date is correct, at least officially.

Nu

 

[EagleRJ]

What's even more amazing is that NW still operates about a dozen DC-9-10s! When were those built? Early '60s?