How did the Arbitration go

[maxblast72]

This is a major reason why America can't compete globally as well anymore. We teach our kids that everyone is a winner and there are no losers. We give kids trophies for winning and trophies for last place so little Johny doesn't get his feelings hurt.

History says a large market (like DEN) usually only supports 2 large carriers and midsize cities like MKE can only support 1 large carrier. Right now both of these cities probably have excess capacity. There are going to be winners and losers. What is wrong with rooting for your company to be one of the winners? That competition in generally free markets is what has made America into the greatest country on Earth.

The competition is not personal. It is just business. I used to fly for Shuttle but now work for Airtran. The winners and losers of this battle are really going to determined to a large degree on the decisions of Bedford, Kelly, Fornaro, and Tilton and to a smaller degree the efficiency and service produced by the employees including pilots. I have confidence in Fornaro, I am sure most SWA guys have confidence in Kelly, how do the Republic, Frontier, and Midwest guys feel about Bedford (I wouldn't want to guess about UAL guys and Tilton).

 

[crj410]

You tried to screw the Frontier pilots out of their seats and domicles.

They said "NO". Now get over it.

Actually it will be Bedford that will be doing the screwing. Just look at his historical track record. We all can learn alot from history if people would stop being so ignorant. Heard Rah put in order for new CRJ 100 + seat. Think he'll keep those airbuses. where do those planes fit in your payscale breakdown ? I really hope that all your pilots are on the same page. Alpa did a wonderful job fragmenting the whole entire airline industry.

 

[texman]

They would not have had to reinterview and I highly doubt they would have been furloughed. Everyone I know would have taken the reduction in Trip totals until the growth machine kicked in. But the F9ers will say something else. Even the F9 furloughed pilots were going to get a SWA number. As well as Lynx. NO reinterview...who comes up with this? Jet, how has SWA made your life unbearable?

The judge did throw out the bid and SWA didnt put anoter bid in. This BS about the pilots not getting along on a deal is a joke. Does anyone really believe GK gave a rats ass about the pilots working out a deal. I dont. There wasnt a chance in heck that was going to get worked out in less then 2 days.

Good luck to you guys!

I agree. GK Just wanted to show good faith to the culture and this was a perfect opportunity to do so. But he also wanted to see F9's books. If GK wanted the deal to go through he would of put more cash out there. Being at the bottom of the list at SWA, it would of been nice to see some growth with the F9 deal. I personally feel that the low cost structure of RAH may be the key to the whole company to survive but we all know that this is a customer service biz, not just what us pilots can get out of the deal. So if F9 and Midwest peeps can lead by example teach RAH great customer service then the customers will follow. This is key.

 

[starchkr]

Actually it will be Bedford that will be doing the screwing. Just look at his historical track record. We all can learn alot from history if people would stop being so ignorant. Heard Rah put in order for new CRJ 100 + seat. Think he'll keep those airbuses. where do those planes fit in your payscale breakdown ? I really hope that all your pilots are on the same page. Alpa did a wonderful job fragmenting the whole entire airline industry.

See what happens when i go away for a couple months with better things to do than read and post here on FI...this place goes to he!!. So i guess i should stick around more often...:laugh:

Ok, Anyway!!

crj410, those CRJ 1000's actually fall under the F9 contract which runs coincidentally through the delivery of those birds. Rev BB already signed off on the contract and it enforces that the new birds be flown by F9 guys/gals. So that's good.

 

[king10pin02]

See what happens when i go away for a couple months with better things to do than read and post here on FI...this place goes to he!!. So i guess i should stick around more often...:laugh:

Ok, Anyway!!

crj410, those CRJ 1000's actually fall under the F9 contract which runs coincidentally through the delivery of those birds. Rev BB already signed off on the contract and it enforces that the new birds be flown by F9 guys/gals. So that's good.

rah did not order the crj1000, and by the time the C-series that rah did order exists, it will be one list, and that seniority list will determine who flies the aircraft. there will be no "f9 guys only or RW guys only" flying those aircraft.