History question

[flint4xx]

In airline history has there been a case similar to SW/AT where one group gained so much? Usually it means somebody gets furloughed. Any good deals previously?

 

[N1atEcon]

No good deals previosly and no one is getting furloughed. Once SWA starts to connect dots between the two route maps there should be some nice growth.

 

[Daddy]

In airline history has there been a case similar to SW/AT where one group gained so much? Usually it means somebody gets furloughed. Any good deals previously?

Check out the deal with Morris Air

 

[GoodTimes]

Reno / AA


No furloughs

 

[Dan Roman]

Did anybody get furloughed NWA/DAL? It certainly created a large airline (and they fly International!)

Sure looks like UAL/CAL has already started adding jobs.
My take is the whole airline industry is not going to lose any seats anywhere. Before competition got bought up and shrunk down, now all the seats are needed whoever is flying them and any mergers will be for growth.

 

[N1VIBS]

In airline history has there been a case similar to SW/AT where one group gained so much? Usually it means somebody gets furloughed. Any good deals previously?

Delta/Western, Delta/Northeast worked out pretty good for most of the Western/Northeast folks.

 

[Dan Roman]

Want to go way back.... United/Capital, Flying Tigers/Seaboard and I don't believe anyone suffered in Flying Tigers/FedEx.

 

[ChinaClipper]

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[Dan Roman]

Here's some more history, Republic was the result of North Central, Hughes AirWest and Southern merging, growth for all. Republic than merged with NWA.
This industry is full of both good and bad mergers. Allegheny (USAir)/Mohawk was considered the Gold Seal of mergers. That was followed by USAir/ Piedmont and PSA merging. USAir and Piedmont were two of the financially strongest and best performing airlines in the industry at the time, Piedmont had labor/management relations at least as good as SWA has today. It was a disaster and that lead to USAir/AmWest......

The bottom line is you never know how they will turn out till long after it has happened.

 

[waveflyer]

You hoping for that Dan?

 

[Dan Roman]

You hoping for that Dan?

Not in the least. The reality is I think you guys will be fine. I think the AT pilots will be pretty stoked to be at SWA once the dust settles and the SWA pilots will realize they didn't get hurt. You still perceive me as a SWA basher? My posts on here were aimed at the over the top "SWA is the best and everyone else sucks and you should be happy to be stapled" attitude that permeated this board. Think of it as similar to someone who thinks their religion is the only correct one and everyone else's is wrong. Just because you don't agree that only one religion is the "right" one doesn't mean you are an atheist.
I also think the whole SWA will rule the world attitude a little over the top too. The simple truth is you are good at what you do, but SWA is not the end all be all of air travel. The reality is you are going to be getting more competition from VA and JetBlue as they grow, you couldn't kick Alaska's ass in their market nor could you ours were we fly and DAL Amr UAL have become a bit of a fortress that are no longer as vulnerable as they once were. I did a stint at PeopleExpress. It's not that easy for a LCC carrier to make the transition to International flying, you couldn't beat the legacies at that game, you would have to find ways around them.

 

[waveflyer]

Praise lord, brother.