Hiring with 100 ME

[your_dreamguy]

Hey,

Does anyone know of any place other than Skywest, Mesa, Airnet and AmFlight that hires people with 100 ME?
I'm looking for 135, 121, Corporate, Foreign (willing to hire American), etc.

If you do, some contact info. or info on how to apply would really help.

Take care.

 

[labbats]

www.aviationinterviews.com

 

[utahpilot]

I was hired at CA with 101 ME.

www.commutair.com

 

[Rogue5]

Unless you have several major ins, I think the days of getting hired at SkyWest with 100 multi are not to be seen again for a LONG time... I mean, even getting an interview at all with 500 multi and previous 121 time is not possible at this time.

I don't mean to discourage you at all but I think you would be best off putting the industry in perspective now and try to get on with a 135 cargo company and building more total time, multi time, and gaining great experience.

When any airline does start hiring again, most total/multi time and quality of flight time matter most (along with internal rec's and a healthy amount of luck).

 

[captxxx]

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$h#tauqua or "Gullible"stream Int'l

 

[BRA]

I've been sending resumes out with 2000+ TT, 1200 + multi, 500+ 121 turbine.., ERAU degree, (laugh).and i have LOR's at several airlines.....i can not even get an interview call. It is all luck. 135 cargo.....have you tried Ramair freight?? www.ramairfreight.com and try great lakes.

 

[bobbysamd]

Does anyone know of any place other than Skywest, Mesa, Airnet and AmFlight that hires people with 100 ME?

(emphasis added)

Rotsa ruck. Those are only published minimums. The reality is you need more than mins to get a call at any time. During these times, you need far more than 100 hours of multi to be called. I would submit that you need at least 500 of multi to gain attention.

Not only do you need far more than minimum multi quals, you need good total time, instrument and night. Having good non-instructing time along with instructing time, 135 time and your ATP will also make you competitive during these times.

If this is any guide, I had far more than 1000 total and 100 hour of multi when Mesa called me thirteen years ago. I realize that was long ago - but I had started to apply to Mesa with less than 100 of multi and continued to update as I met and exceeded that figure. I started to apply to SkyWest with less than a hundred of multi. I updated and submitted new apps to it for the better part of six years. SkyWest never called, despite six years of applying and even having an ex-student who worked there walk in an application and another application fee. Long before I gave up, I had the multi hours you see at the left.

The long and short of it is that although you may meet or exceed minimum quals you are not guaranteed an interview. Another way to view it is an interview is a privilege and not an entitlement.

 

[teedub]

100me in puerto rico

try puerto rico......couple of 135 ops flying dc3's, pa31's, or islanders....

four star
tol air
flamenco air
isla nena
viequies air link
and a few other ops at the isla grande airport in san juan (smaller one)

go there and just pester them til you get a job......lots of flying...some crappy mnce but great climate and beautiful beaches..

you'll get 135 time plus some good ins with eagle down there....all the pilots go to lupis night club/bar in isla verde

beunos suerte

 

[utahpilot]

Those are only published minimums. The reality is you need more than mins to get a call at any time. During these times, you need far more than 100 hours of multi to be called. I would submit that you need at least 500 of multi to gain attention.

Not true. See my post above, I was hired with 101 ME hours and under 1200 TT. All I had was an LOR, which is why I was called to interview. Once there, I had to get the job, but the LOR was what got me the opportunity. Now, this is not true at all airlines, and surely the more multi you have, the better. H@ll, Lakes just had a job fair!

 

[bobbysamd]

Hiring at low mins

I was hired with 101 ME hours and under 1200 TT.

When were you hired? If it was within the past two years, more power to you. Of course, a LOR is extremely helpful, but still no guarantee.

Just the same, I stick by what I said above, especially regarding Mesa and SkyWest. Your odds of being called from anywhere improve if you have better quals, i.e. multi, than the rest of the rabble.

 

[utahpilot]

When were you hired? If it was within the past two years, more power to you. Of course, a LOR is extremely helpful, but still no guarantee.

I was hired summer of '03. Everyone else in my class had similar times.

As for SkyWest, they are a tough nut to crack, I know. However, I have friends who have been hired there in the last two years with very close to mins. Just depends on who you know and TIMING. Seems like your comments about them imply that they somehow went out of their way to not hire you back in the day, but I would guess it had more to do with timing and who you were up against. I DO know that they have hired pilots in their 50s even recently, so again I think it's mostly who you know and when you apply. Failing that, some places are just not a good 'fit' for pilot or employer and vice versa and it will play out that way.

As for Mesa, well, who knows. Since I started flying in '98 seems like tons of people of all kinds of backgrounds have gotten on there. Since you were an MAPD guy and didn't, again I'd guess that the timing wasn't right.

 

[bobbysamd]

Getting hired

As for SkyWest, they are a tough nut to crack, I know. However, I have friends who have been hired there in the last two years with very close to mins. Just depends on who you know and TIMING. Seems like your comments about them imply that they somehow went out of their way to not hire you back in the day, but I would guess it had more to do with timing and who you were up against.

I tried for the better part of six years. Good thing I never became a comedian if I could not get my timing right during that long a period of time.

I know of at least two Riddlers who were hired there in the early '90s at somewhat lower times. Both were instructors. My student, who tried to help me at SkyWest, had a little 135 time when she was hired. She might have had 2500 total. I don't know how much multi. The other Riddler, a female, was actually a pretty good pilot and instructor, but had instructing experience only.

I DO know that they have hired pilots in their 50s even recently, so again I think it's mostly who you know and when you apply.

Were they career changers or had they already flown for years and had the hours and experience to show for it? I would bet ANYTHING they were the latter and not the former.

As for Mesa, well, who knows. Since I started flying in '98 seems like tons of people of all kinds of backgrounds have gotten on there. Since you were an MAPD guy and didn't, again I'd guess that the timing wasn't right.

No. I had suffered a termination before I was hired at MAPD. I disclosed my termination fully during my interview, which was with the Chief Flight Instructor and the Corporate Counsel. I remember to this day the Chief Instructor saying that as far as he was concerned I had a three-month vacation.

I was very excited about going to Mesa because I thought I'd finally get my chance. I thought that Mesa was the greatest. I moved a thousand miles from California to Farmington and reported to Corporate. It wanted a five-year employment history, which I provided. Then, I was told that I might not be eligible for hire at all because, according to the H.R. lady, Mesa did not hire terminated pilots. I finally was told that I could work at the school but I would never be considered for Mesa Airlines. The Chief Instructor insisted he was unaware of that policy. To this day I do not believe it. Surely, the Corporate Counsel must have known.

 

[utahpilot]

sounds like, then, that you were not hired at either due to the earlier termination.

seriously, I attended MAPD for a semester before deciding it was too expensive. After getting my Private PL, I left. I have lots of friends who fly there now and have in the past.

I am from SLC, and have no less than 6 friends who are pilots at SkyWest. I also know some corporate folks there. So, I think I have a good sampling of people I personally know at each airline.

are you saying you were discriminated against, because of the prior termination? could be, I have no idea what either company's policy is on that.

anyway, my .02

 

[bobbysamd]

Termination discrimination

sounds like, then, that you were not hired at either due to the earlier termination.

I don't think so, at least not at SkyWest and not before 1993. I had been sending materials to SkyWest for more than four years before I was let go during that year.

are you saying you were discriminated against, because of the prior termination?

Not necessarily. That might have given them an excuse not to consider me after that event. Face it, there are too many saints out there. Unless you offer absolutely tremendous quals and there is little competition I believe that one has about had it after a termination. It's just too easy for them to find spotless people and they won't let you explain because they won't bring you in for an interview. Having said all that, I believe that SkyWest did not consider me for other pre-termination reasons I've expounded upon elsewhere.

Thanks for your interest, though.