High mins capt (135)?

[Wankel7]

I am trying to make sure that I have got this down correctly.

All this applies to the PIC if they have less than 100 pic in the airplane.

For landing the PIC has to add 100' and 1/2 mile to the app mins. (This does not apply if they are going to their alt). And if RVR is needed the lowest you can do is a RVR 4500 landing.

For take off - This is where I am unsure. What is the lowest vis. that you can depart with?

Thanks!

Wankel7

 

[SDCFI]

Takeoff mins are unchanged. But keep in mind that you may need a departure alt if the takeoff mins are now lower than the landing mins because of the added vis requirement. You didn't mention it so just to cover all the bases this only applies to turbine aircraft.

 

[Wankel7]

Hum, thanks for the reply. However, I am reading our op specs ( I assume that this stuff is generic). It is C079. That lets us do takeoffs down to 600, 600, 600.

There is a subpart that says this.

"Each pic must have at least 100 hours flight time as pic in the specific make and model airplane used under this auth. and must have satisfactorily completed the cert holders approved training program for the mins auth by subpart a. Which includes the methods to be used to ensure compliance with the performance limits in subpart c6."

So, that makes we wonder this.

Our op specs let us depart with lower than standard take off mins (Twin engine - One mile).

It breaks down like this

1. RVV 1/4 mile or TDZE RVR 1600
2. TDZE RVR 1000
3. TDZE RVR 600,600,600.

So that is how low we can go for the deviation.

So where does a baby captain fit in?

It almost seems like the lowest they could go in this sit. is 1sm?

Wankel7

 

[SDCFI]

We're just starting to do 6,6,6 t/o's in our metros when there are 2 pilots. In that case I believe the 100 PIC does apply to those t/o mins. In fact I remember hearing that both pilots had to have 100 hours in the a/c, but don't quote me on that. I'm single pilot in the 99 so I haven't had any experience with that yet. I know single pilot I can take off down to 1/2sm or 1800RVR, with the suitabe straight in approach criteria. If I was still on high mins I could takeoff down to 1800RVR but I would still need 1sm or 4500RVR min to land, therefore t/o alt. If you don't have the 100PIC to do the 6,6,6 you should still be allowed to t/o down to the lowest straight-in vis. That would be my guess anyway. The baby mins only apply to landing, I believe the 6,6,6 t/o is a whole different ballgame.

 

[J41CA]

High Mins Capts must add 100 & 1/2 to all approaches at their destination. They do not add the 100 & 1/2 at the alternate. Nothing is added to take off alternates. However, under our Ops Specs, no high mins capt can commence an approach at the alternate with wx less than 300 & 1. Therefore, even though you do not add any thing at the alternate, if the cat I landing mins are 200 & 1/2 the high mins capt can not begin the approach with visability less than 1 mile and must make the MDA/DH 300' AGL. Another example is if the alternate approach 450' & 1 1/4, nothing is added and the high mins capt can shoot the approach with those actual wx mins.

High mins capt are not restricted (i.e., no wx min are added) from conducting lower than standard take off minimums. If approved to conduct 600 RVR takeoffs, then high mins capt are authorized.

 

[Wankel7]

So, if there is no restriction to the takeoff mins for a baby captain then why did my company's op specs have that lil tid bit at the end of the op spec?

"Each pic must have at least 100 hours flight time as pic in the specific make and model airplane used under this auth. and must have satisfactorily completed the cert holders approved training program for the mins auth by subpart a. Which includes the methods to be used to ensure compliance with the performance limits in subpart c6."

Does you company's opspecs have that part?

Thanks!

Wankel

 

[J41CA]

Each company Ops Specs can have limitations as instructed by the FAA. I suspect your company could not gain authorization from the FAA to conduct lower than standard T/O minimums unless each PIC had 100 hours in type. We were granted this authorization. We could have had the limitation when we first began 600 RVR T/O and then had it lifted. If so, that was long before my time.

 

[Rick1128]

OpSpecs

The OpSpecs that Wankel's company has are standard boilerplate OpSpecs. Generally the FAA will not diviate from that. Sometimes they do. But very seldom.