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[indynomore]

I'm coming back to flying after being furloghed first from indy (april 2005). I have around 4800 hrs over 2500 sic jet, 1500 pic, no jet pic and live in MCO. I flew PA- 31s panther for a liitle while after indy and then went to do something else which brought good $ and QOL. My wife has an excellent job and we managed to put money aside. I want back....Now, recency of flight has been the issue from most LCC,Nationals and Fractionals . What route would a bunch of smart guys like yourselves sugest I take. I don't want to move out of MCO and my aim is Jet Blue. What would "you need some recency of flight" mean to you guys in time (noooo, don't say 3 TO and Lngs w/in 90 days...I already asked!!!) Thanks in advance....

 

[Speedtape]

I'm coming back to flying after being furloghed first from indy (april 2005). I have around 4800 hrs over 2500 sic jet, 1500 pic, no jet pic and live in MCO. I flew PA- 31s panther for a liitle while after indy and then went to do something else which brought good $ and QOL. My wife has an excellent job and we managed to put money aside. I want back....Now, recency of flight has been the issue from most LCC,Nationals and Fractionals . What route would a bunch of smart guys like yourselves sugest I take. I don't want to move out of MCO and my aim is Jet Blue. What would "you need some recency of flight" mean to you guys in time (noooo, don't say 3 TO and Lngs w/in 90 days...I already asked!!!) Thanks in advance....

Apply at ASA and get some skills--recency of flight. Then apply everwhere and your wildest dreams will come true. Just don't sell the headsets on ebay.

 

[indynomore]

Anybody else??

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Don't come back. Now that's smart advice.

 

[siucavflight]

Do you mean that you are being called back from the furlough? If so take the recall and get current. Why JetBlue? Why not get a few hundred hours with the company who will be calling you back and then apply at DAL, CAL, UAL? You have the time and experience for all of them.

 

[rightseatjocky]

Are you a cfi and is it current? If not get it and do some of that. What about flying cargo for a few months? It doesn't matter what you fly as long as you are in the air getting the currency, don't you agree?

 

[indynomore]

Do you mean that you are being called back from the furlough? If so take the recall and get current. Why JetBlue? Why not get a few hundred hours with the company who will be calling you back and then apply at DAL, CAL, UAL? You have the time and experience for all of them.

siucavflight, I'm not getting recalled!! Independence Air went belly up 2 some odd years ago. I just wnat to come back into a company how will give me good QOL in the long run. Jetblue very well could open a base here in MCO...nothing like living @ your base right? DAL,CAL,UAL good pay but lots of commuting thats not QOL for me and I'll trade that anyday for $$
Over

 

[indynomore]

Are you a cfi and is it current? If not get it and do some of that. What about flying cargo for a few months? It doesn't matter what you fly as long as you are in the air getting the currency, don't you agree?

True....

 

[XJohXJ]

It's not that big a deal getting hired on with only a handful of recent hours.

First, get yourself legal. Find a reasonable FBO, pick a plane, and get "FBO checked" in it. Combine the FBO check out with a BFR and IPC. Get your 3 night T/O and Landings in a single AND a twin. Then, at the very least you can honestly say you are legally current.

As you job hunt, be sure to fly, even if only a hour, every week or two. Then you can honestly say you are making an effort to get back in the game.

If you want to be productive, get a tail-dragger endorsement, or whatever else might actually be fun.

It's really not that big of a deal. Make a genuine effort. It doesn't need to cost that much, although these days the basics will probably total up to around $1000.00, maybe $2000.00 if you go for gold-plated type stuff. So what. That's the price of taking time off.

Now, you'll probably have to start with another regional, however. Needless to say, try to find one without a training contract, or be prepared to put up with a year. If you cut out short of a year for your dream job, you'll just have to pay a pro-rated amount, like a couple/few thousand of dollars or so. Again, so what, it's no big deal, but it will require a bit more sacrifice than if you had been flying the whole time.

At least you got to answer the question: "I wonder if I should give up flying for something better?" You tried it, and you KNOW the answer, instead of just wondering.

Find a regional where you can honestly say something like, "my goal is to go to jet blue, but if I stay here, that would be OK, too". Honesty is everything in an interview.

It's really no big deal, it'll just cost you a thousand or few to get back in the game. When applying to regionals ignore the recency requirements, just be prepared to talk about it at the interview. You've already proven you can play the 121 game.

 

[siucavflight]

Indy,
Check out Netjets, their new contract is going to be spectacular, and I am sure that MCO will be or is a gateway city. QOL should be very good also.

 

[indynomore]

You are totally right brother!! No matter how much mngmt and pay will make you b*tch and moan, once you get out, one way or another, you will always want to come back...no matter how much lack of $ or sh*t you are about to put up with.

 

[indynomore]

Now, you'll probably have to start with another regional, however. Needless to say, try to find one without a training contract, or be prepared to put up with a year. If you cut out short of a year for your dream job, you'll just have to pay a pro-rated amount, like a couple/few thousand of dollars or so. Again, so what, it's no big deal, but it will require a bit more sacrifice than if you had been flying the whole time. quote]
Are this contracts really enforceable?? has anybody gotten away without paying??

 

[Stifler's Mom]

once you get out, one way or another, you will always want to come back...

I think it was Robin Williams that said about men & women and sex. Men spend their first 9 months trying to get out, and the rest of their lives trying to get back in again.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

It's not that big a deal getting hired on with only a handful of recent hours.

First, get yourself legal. Find a reasonable FBO, pick a plane, and get "FBO checked" in it. Combine the FBO check out with a BFR and IPC. Get your 3 night T/O and Landings in a single AND a twin. Then, at the very least you can honestly say you are legally current.

As you job hunt, be sure to fly, even if only a hour, every week or two. Then you can honestly say you are making an effort to get back in the game.

If you want to be productive, get a tail-dragger endorsement, or whatever else might actually be fun.

It's really not that big of a deal. Make a genuine effort. It doesn't need to cost that much, although these days the basics will probably total up to around $1000.00, maybe $2000.00 if you go for gold-plated type stuff. So what. That's the price of taking time off.

Now, you'll probably have to start with another regional, however. Needless to say, try to find one without a training contract, or be prepared to put up with a year. If you cut out short of a year for your dream job, you'll just have to pay a pro-rated amount, like a couple/few thousand of dollars or so. Again, so what, it's no big deal, but it will require a bit more sacrifice than if you had been flying the whole time.

I disagree. You certainly need to get legally current again, but I know for a fact that at ASA, if you "get out of the game" and want back in, you must get some sort of flying job to get back into the industry. They don't want to see you renting an airplane for 50 hours to get current that way. The thinking is that you need more structured flying than just boring holes in the sky.

Get your CFI current, and go instruct for a few hundred hours. That will probably be the cheapest and quickest way to get a job with a regional, and from there you can get to JetBlue quickly.

That's my two cents anyway...

 

[XJohXJ]

Who said anything about renting 50 hours? I'm talking about 10 or less. Don't drill endless holes in the sky. Get current, and just fly a little bit every week or two. Maybe ASA isn't the place to go. There are plenty of other companies who just want to see reasonable experience and effort. You do NOT need a current flying job to get a flying job. You've already had a good 121 job.

Of course having a flying job will help. However, it is simply NOT absolutely necessary.

CFI'ing would be great. However, if your CFI has lapsed, it'll cost a lot more than $1000 bucks to get that rolling again. Go to a company that will take you as you are (albeit, at least fully current). You might have to bug some HR people to plead your case, but in the current market, you'll find some takers.

 

[siucavflight]

Don't come back. Now that's smart advice.

Actually probably the worst advice. This guy has done both fly, and work in the "real world" so he knows exactly what he is in for.
I would never want to do anything different. Things are going to get much, much better for us in the next few years.

 

[johnsonrod]

Check out www.xojet.com

They are hiring big time and they have 50 jets on firm order on the way (mix of Citation Xs and Challenger 300s) with more on option. Not sure where you would live (which domicile would apply). Check out the numerous threads on the fractional and charter forums. I know a bunch of former Indy pilots were hired by XOJet soon after Indy shut down.

Check it out.

 

[indynomore]

Actually probably the worst advice. This guy has done both fly, and work in the "real world" so he knows exactly what he is in for.
I would never want to do anything different. Things are going to get much, much better for us in the next few years.

You have NO idea how RIGHT you are!! Unless you absolutely have to, dont quit flying. If money is the issue get yourself something to generate money ona side. (Monavi drink or any network type of income) or get a Real Estate License and sell 2 houses a year (around 12K extra). Money isn't everything.I'm leaving a 98K job to fly RJs for $20 hr so I can make it to JB or something for maybe $50K.. man I think i'm really stupid...oh well stupid feels good!!!

 

[siucavflight]

You have NO idea how RIGHT you are!! Unless you absolutely have to, dont quit flying. If money is the issue get yourself something to generate money ona side. (Monavi drink or any network type of income) or get a Real Estate License and sell 2 houses a year (around 12K extra). Money isn't everything.I'm leaving a 98K job to fly RJs for $20 hr so I can make it to JB or something for maybe $50K.. man I think i'm really stupid...oh well stupid feels good!!!

Waking up and looking forward to going to work is priceless. Congrats, and good luck on whatever you decide. If it makes any difference to you Eagle lets you choose your own base, so if you came here you could choose MIA as a base.

 

[indynomore]

Waking up and looking forward to going to work is priceless. Congrats, and good luck on whatever you decide. If it makes any difference to you Eagle lets you choose your own base, so if you came here you could choose MIA as a base.

not that it'll make any difference at this point but, is MIA an ATR or ERJ base or both?? what A/C would I most likely be hired into?? no problems with my time away issue??
Thanks brother!!