Hawker 1000 type rating

[Capt1124]

I have searched this but not found an answer- does the Hawker 1000 have a different type rating, or is it the same as the 800?

 

[gulfstreameric]

it is a separate type rating

 

[Webslinger]

Major differences are no "fuel cocks" in the 1000, T-handle shuttoffs that control the FADECS. BAE-125(1000) compared to the HS-125 (A1A-800XP) Seperate Types._

 

[LJ45]

delete, wrong hawker

 

[lazyace75]

This is rediculous that the FAA required a separate type for the 1000. I fly the 1000 and 800XP and they are virtually the same airplane except for the engines (FADEC controlled) and various other switch placements.

I'm typed in the Sabreliner and there is a HUGE variance between the 40-model and the 65. Much like the lear types.....

 

[Raskal]

This is rediculous that the FAA required a separate type for the 1000. I fly the 1000 and 800XP and they are virtually the same airplane except for the engines (FADEC controlled) and various other switch placements.

I'm typed in the Sabreliner and there is a HUGE variance between the 40-model and the 65. Much like the lear types.....

What's really amusing (I have both hawker types also) is that the hs125 type will cover an absolutely enormous spread of hawkers, from the 400s to the newest. Straight vipers to the latest honeywells but the 1000 is a different cert.

Going from an XP to the 1000 was relatively painless, I can't imagine an XP to a 400 with no type change.

 

[blzr]

This is rediculous that the FAA required a separate type for the 1000. I fly the 1000 and 800XP and they are virtually the same airplane except for the engines (FADEC controlled) and various other switch placements.

I'm typed in the Sabreliner and there is a HUGE variance between the 40-model and the 65. Much like the lear types.....

No kidding. Try going from the 65 to the 80. Totally different animal, but oh well, the feds made it a common type.

 

[ultrarunner]

It's the FAA. No logic required.

 

[JAFI]

First the MANUFACTURER puts their input and recommendation on how much different a new aircraft is compared to their similar aircraft. Then, a committee of industry (read manufacturer and experienced industry operators) and FAA people come up with the Type Certificate Data Sheet - listing how common an aircraft is to what ever the MANUFACTURER has built. REMEMBER that the Manufacturer wants to have a common type to better sell its aircraft.

After the TCDS is completed the Flight Standardization Board decides what training is involved for a common type rating with what differences training is required. THE FSB is also made up of industry and FAA people.

Does it always make sense; I don’t think you can get the groups to agree on much. So it is a compromise.

Therefore, IMHO your comments about the FAA and the process are uninformed.

The link to the TCDS:

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/MainFrame?OpenFrameSet

 

[ultrarunner]

After the TCDS is completed the Flight Standardization Board decides what training is involved for a common type rating with what differences training is required. THE FSB is also made up of industry and FAA people.

Does it always make sense; I don’t think you can get the groups to agree on much. So it is a compromise.
http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/MainFrame?OpenFrameSet

It sure doesn't make sense. I have one type rating that allows me to jump in a Lear 23 and a Lear 55c. And I'm not aware of any mandate by the FEDS or "industry people" that I have a lick of differences training.

Same can be said for many of these "common" type ratings.