G Order #1

[Deuce130]

GO is in effect for all 16 Spec ops wing crews out here at Nellis. And, from what I hear, is in effect for all TDY's. Sucks. The word on the street is that the WG/CC doesn't want anyone screwing up his BG promotion before he leaves Hurlburt. How this guy came to be an 0-7 amazes me.

 

[Mamma]

As far as the beer deal goes in the sandbox, we are kicking our own asses. Leadership summed up there is: if somebody craps their pants, everybody wears a diaper. We had a great O club in the Deid that offered unlimited drinks...on the lowdown. We were all happy people. Then the idiots rolled in and brought enlisted chicks in to dance on the tables topless; got completely ripped and passed out in their own puke on the base shuttle bus; got ripped and sexually assaulted an enlisted female. The second example happened over and over until the wing cc shut down the bar and turned it into baggage storage. When I was deployed there last summer, three officers were reprimanded/court maritaled and sent home for screwing/assaulting enlisted girls. My old squadron had 8 alcohol related incidences in Germany over 4 months to include 3 DUIs. Basically, the point is, good leadership will look the other way in some instances if we behave ourselves and act as officers. Since a certain percentage always screws it up, we all wear diapers.

 

[Mongoose69]

Storys seem to grow with time...

they weren't completely topless, and he didn't puke...

Too bad it's closed. That was a great place to unwind.

 

[YeOldeProp]

I think it was Marine Gen Zinni who had a great observation just before he retired from active duty. I see folks tending to speak more freely with less concern about their "political/military" futures after they've dropped their retirement/separation papers. The gist of the talk was about the "Warrior Monk".

He stated that the military demands a soldier (and insert airman, marine, sailor, etc where applicable) to be a "Warrior" for the dirty work of protecting the USA's interests. People who have the attitude, personality and drive to be the killers in the field, who can think/react under the highest of pressures during the fog of war, and who can repeat all the above aggressive activities on an everyday basis. They are trained to that level and expected to perform such duties on order.

Yet, in today's military and under supervision of the type of leaders the military has developed over the last decade, the soldier needs to be a "Monk" in his everyday life. He needs to live to higher standards than the everyday US citizen...not getting in any trouble and seeing to it that no one else does either. He needs to be big into his church and the local volunteer scene...not into the bar scene. He needs to spend more time on his own military/civilian continuing education and not out riding his Harley with the crowd that doesn't present a proper image. Everything he does needs to present a nice image to the public so that the military gets good press and lots of good newspaper articles/TV sound bites.

And...as Gen Zinni pointed out...you can't have it both ways. In a very few instances you can get an individual that can handle both mentalities...but not usually in the 18-25 year old demographic the military needs for the majority of the force. The individuals that are best at being a Warrior doesn't excel at being the nice, plain Monk everyday. And the Monk just doesn't have the stomach for the knuckle-busting mentality that's necessary for the field work.

Gen Order #1 is a necessity in some parts and a convinience in others to the leadership. Some parts are valid, others are add-ons that make the leadership's life easier...they can hide behind it and have the legal folks throw UCMJ paperwork around daily. Sounds like some of the leadership tried to provide a stress relief area in the clubs overseas, but then got spooked and provided shotgun justice that blasted everyone for a few folks over-indulgence. Maybe over the next decade, the youngsters of today's actions will make the higher ranks. Then it'll be up to them to remember what it was like to be under the thumb and maybe they'll come up with a better solution. Just depends on whether the warriors of this conflict get promoted, or the monks...

 

[P3 Tweek]

Semper Fi `YeOldeProp'

Right on the mark Gen Zinni, USMC.

This PC, knee jerk, commie lib BS and its policies are getting us hurt in more ways than we may ever know or be able to count. I'm concerned for our future.

P3 (Orion) Tweek USN

PS. Irrational liberalism is a mental disorder...