FY 04AF Force Shaping--Palace Chase

[flogged]

Wondering if any 11X AFSC types (pilots) have applied for separation via Palace Chase under the recently announced Force Shaping initiatives (phase I or II)? More the point, have any been approved???

 

[AD SUPT Hopeful]

There's a dude "here" who recently Palace Chased [during phase I] and he's a T-1 FAIP.

 

[chili]

Palace Chase? Hadn't heard that one in the Navy. Is it just force reduction?

 

[flogged]

Dont ask me about the origins of the name but it is essentially a program that allows AD AF members to tranfer to the Guard/Reserve component to serve out their remaining service commitment (normally 2:1 for enlisted, 3:1 for officers).

Force Shaping is the overarching force reduction initiative in motion now to trim approx 16,000 airmen from the AD AF. It's utilizing a host of personnel tools to include Palace Chase and Limited Active Duty Service Commitment waivers (ie walk free and clear), as well as others (like my favorite: voluntary transfer to the Army).

 

[BonesF15]

I was told today that if you spill the beans and tell the AF that you are getting out you will be gone in 120 days from when you turn down the assignment.

Bones

 

[CookieMonster]

Can this rumor be substantiated? I heard the same thing from a C-5 bud. I'm one year out...and really don't want to get booted too early!

 

[BonesF15]

I was told by my funtional at AFMPC about 4 hours ago.

He is a friend of mine and he told me about an assignment that I was about to get and what was going to happen if I declined it. 120 days, totally out of his hands.

PM me if you want more detail.

Bones

 

[Hdawg]

Not sure if it is true with pilots but the 120 day sep date is true my DO read it to me. I.E. 7 day op your out in 120...

 

[CookieMonster]

Out in 120...

What if you still owe time? I have pilot training / MWS commitment left. Would they waive that to boot you in 120? MDS specific?

 

[BonesF15]

It Depends.....

I still owe a year from my UPT and 10 months for my PCS and I will be getting out 6 months early without considering terminal leave. I was also told that if you turn down a PME school slot it is the same story. I do not know what would happen if you owe more than a year but that is a question I could ask my friend at AFMPC. His initial impression was that you are gone after you 7 day opt no questions asked. I am not sure what the rules are on 7 day opt if you owe more than a year. I know that they can't force you to accept more commitment but they can give you a really bad deal to help change your mind.

Bones

 

[CookieMonster]

Out in 120

What about involuntary severance pay? That should apply...if you are getting booted early. Ask your bud about that, too.

 

[DaveGriffin]

looking at guys in the shower

All AF guys who admit to looking at guys in the shower qualify for Palace Chase Force Shaping initiatives.

 

[Hdawg]

Dork!!!

 

[DaveGriffin]

Pissant!!

 

[furloughed dude]

Dave,


Do you have to continually be a dickhead?

 

[Vandal]

mwahahaha it's nice to be a reservist...