Free Food???

[livethedream]

which fracs give meals to crews?
if you get meals do you also get perdiem?

 

[flywest]

Netjets provides crew meals at no charge to the crew, and the pilots also get to keep all per diem for the day.

 

[HSDriver]

Free Food?

A crew meal is not free food! It is a benefit to the company that enables them to keep the airplanes moving throughout the day. If they want to give me two hours to shut down between legs I'll gladly take the time to go purchase a decent meal. In fact, I'd prefer that. As I am sure most pilots would.

HS

 

[Diesel]

its not free. You're working for it. Thinking its free, or even using it as an argument why you should go to a particular fractional is retarted and short sighted.

 

[RNObased]

Back before the new contract the food was actually worth talking about. No longer, it is some nasty stuff. As for using it as agrument to go to this or that frac, I have to agree with Diesel, very short sighted.

 

[Papps]

A crew meal is not free food! It is a benefit to the company that enables them to keep the airplanes moving throughout the day. If they want to give me two hours to shut down between legs I'll gladly take the time to go purchase a decent meal. In fact, I'd prefer that. As I am sure most pilots would.

HS

There are alot of places that don't give you time to eat, or crew meals.

 

[TORCH67]

There are alot of places that don't give you time to eat, or crew meals.

Exactly! You don't have to work there either!

 

[Diesel]

Well then papps thats your fault for not pulling the ebrake and making sure your crew and yourself is well fed. We are not an airline, we are not a charter company, we are not a corp dept.

Any reference to the above just brings us down. Especially when compared to the 121 world.

The problem is that fractional pilots don't have a nice food court to go eat in or grab a sandwich. So the company MUST provide us food or risk getting the plane shut down while I go eat.

D

 

[Papps]

Well then papps thats your fault for not pulling the ebrake and making sure your crew and yourself is well fed. We are not an airline, we are not a charter company, we are not a corp dept.

Any reference to the above just brings us down. Especially when compared to the 121 world.

The problem is that fractional pilots don't have a nice food court to go eat in or grab a sandwich. So the company MUST provide us food or risk getting the plane shut down while I go eat.

D

I agree with you, food for the crews is vital. Im pointing out that there is no need for you guys to call the original poster a retard for asking about crew meals. Some people are still slugging out the hardcore due paying jobs where you fly all night, sleep 3 hours in the day, and eat vending machine food when you are lucky enough to find one, stay at truck stop motels, sit on call and on "rest" simultaniously (go figure, thanks for that one FAA) and only get a few 24 hour periods off per month (yes that means working 7 days a week every week with no time off).

Maybe the guy has a tough job, and the idea of eating more than doritos and snickers bars for breakfast (at midnight) 6 nights a week appeals to him. Why not quit a job like that? because most of us aren't born with 10000 turbine PIC, and our bills aren't payed by mommy and daddy. Should crews have food, yes. Should a guy that finds food important be called a retard by a bunch of internet tough guys. No

And as far as putting on the break and sutting down engines to get some food, they must put up with alot of pre-madonna B.S down there if thats the kind of crap you are pulling. Most bosses would start to wonder why your not bringing some bare minimum food to survive on after the twentieth time you put in chocks to go get a happy meal.

And if im bringing down the good name of the frac's by comparing you to every other sector of aviation, then why don't you quit crying on flight info and be happy with your job.

 

[RNObased]

I agree with you, food for the crews is vital. Im pointing out that there is no need for you guys to call the original poster a retard for asking about crew meals. Some people are still slugging out the hardcore due paying jobs where you fly all night, sleep 3 hours in the day, and eat vending machine food when you are lucky enough to find one, stay at truck stop motels, sit on call and on "rest" simultaniously (go figure, thanks for that one FAA) and only get a few 24 hour periods off per month (yes that means working 7 days a week every week with no time off).

Maybe the guy has a tough job, and the idea of eating more than doritos and snickers bars for breakfast (at midnight) 6 nights a week appeals to him. Why not quit a job like that? because most of us aren't born with 10000 turbine PIC, and our bills aren't payed by mommy and daddy. Should crews have food, yes. Should a guy that finds food important be called a retard by a bunch of internet tough guys. No

And as far as putting on the break and sutting down engines to get some food, they must put up with alot of pre-madonna B.S down there if thats the kind of crap you are pulling. Most bosses would start to wonder why your not bringing some bare minimum food to survive on after the twentieth time you put in chocks to go get a happy meal.

And if im bringing down the good name of the frac's by comparing you to every other sector of aviation, then why don't you quit crying on flight info and be happy with your job.

Well Papps it isn't pre-maddona BS like you want to believe, is it the way it is done here. You are running low on blood sugar you get some food. The parking brake is rarely set, because the company sees the benefit in keep the multi-million dollar jet working and gets us some food. ASAP

As for your rant about all the all the poor guys living in truck stops or whatever, you act like none of us have paid our dues. If that is what you are thinking then you are wrong.

Also I don't think Diesel was crying, just stating FACTS.

 

[Diesel]

Premadona yeah lets see. I or my partner is hunger we don't just suck it up and fly to the next desitnation. We stop the plane and eat. If that means the company providing us the food we ordered then we eat that if the company fails to provide us that food then we go sit down at a restaurant.

By choking down a microwave heated meal in an fbo "cantina" I am doing the company a favor. I am keeping the engines turning and having the bare minimum of the substitance in me. Pre madona is going to eat a HOT meal at every stop.... but we make sacrifices... yet i have no problem doing it in a heartbeat

Food is the same as sleep. Not enough of either and we're done.

Its not a perk, its the bare minimum to keep jet a burnin.

If the guy is in such a crappy job why isn't his question how is mx? Because if they won't even pay for the food or truck stop hotel you know their mx is about the same quality too.

 

[WrknStff]

To get back to the original topic, we all seem to know netjets policy. Doesn't Citation Shares provide crew meals and then deduct them from the crew's per diem?

 

[acaTerry]

I'll gladly take the time to go purchase a decent meal. In fact, I'd prefer that. As I am sure most pilots would.

HS

Not me...that per diem is vital income to the SICs.

 

[acaTerry]

Some people are still slugging out the hardcore due paying jobs where you fly all night, sleep 3 hours in the day, and eat vending machine food when you are lucky enough to find one, stay at truck stop motels, sit on call and on "rest" simultaniously (go figure, thanks for that one FAA) and only get a few 24 hour periods off per month (yes that means working 7 days a week every week with no time off).

Maybe the guy has a tough job, and the idea of eating more than doritos and snickers bars for breakfast (at midnight) 6 nights a week appeals to him. Why not quit a job like that? because most of us aren't born with 10000 turbine PIC, and our bills aren't payed by mommy and daddy.

Don't preach here Papps. We have been there...that was just one of the speedbumps on the way to a job here. I won't apologize for the benefits and rightfully-expected things we get here. We have it coming. We workes our a$$es off to get here, keep our end of the deal, and expect the company to do the same.

 

[gunfyter]

Did somebody say something about free beer?

 

[acaTerry]

Did somebody say something about free beer?

Not for rotorheads...

 

[RTRHD]

Did somebody say something about free beer?

Where?

 

[acaTerry]

Look one post up there....

 

[doh]

which fracs give meals to crews?
if you get meals do you also get perdiem?

We get great food at Flex and we keep our per diem. It can be considered as part of the compensation package if you wish. Or you could say that it is to managements benefit to keep the plane moving. Whatever, it beats the heck out of where I came from and I look at it as "free food and I keep my per diem"! Every body can have an opinion about it.:beer:

 

[doh]

Did somebody say something about free beer?

Mmmmmm, beer!:beer: