Frac purchase: 2000EX versus CL-300

[baggage]

Using the information provided by their respective sales staff (grains of salt required), the 5 year cost projections for these AC work out to be very similar.

2000EX 100 hours
$6,213,055
Cash outlay over 5 years
$4,003,680
Net Expenses**
$800,736
Average Annual Expense
$8,007
Net Hourly Expense

CL-300 100 hours

$5,841,544
Cash outlay over 5 years
$4,120,244
Net Expenses**
$824,049
Average Annual Expense
$8,240
Net Hourly Expense

Can anyone provide additional usable information for purchase? Mostly regarding the AC, without too much FJ v. NJA.
Particulars:
Typical Passengers: 4 to 6
Typical Legs: LNS to EGE, RSW, PSP, YVR

Thanks.

 

[gunfyter]

Thats a lot of money for a Challenger 300! I thought the 300 was an $18 million airplane? The 2000EX is what a $25 million dollar airplane? and the costs are about the same?

 

[baggage]

this was the data and math provided

Assumptions Federal Excise tax7.5% * Years 2 through 5 assume3.75%CPI Increase * *Net Expense assumes70%recouped acquisition costs Dassault Falcon 2000EX Year 1Year 2Year 3Year 4Year 5 Purchase Price based on 1/8th Share or100Occuppied hours$3,156,250 Annual Management Costs* based on$22,398Monthly Fee$268,776$278,855$289,312$300,161$311,417 Annual Fuel Variable* based on$2,776Variable Rate per hour$277,600$288,010$298,810$310,016$321,641 $20,820$21,601$22,411$23,251$24,123 $3,723,446$588,466$610,533$633,428$657,182$6,213,055Cash outlay over 5 years $4,003,680Net Expenses** $800,736Average Annual Expense $8,007Net Hourly ExpenseBombardier Challenger 300 Year 1Year 2Year 3Year 4Year 5 Purchase Price based on 1/8th Share or100Occuppied hours$2,459,000 Annual Management Costs* based on$19,220Monthly Fee$230,640$239,289$248,262$257,572$267,231 Annual Fuel Variable* based on$3,693Variable Rate per hour$369,300$383,149$397,517$412,424$427,890 $2,530$1,163 $27,698$28,736$29,814$30,932$32,092 $3,086,638$651,174$675,593$700,928$727,212$5,841,544Cash outlay over 5 years $4,120,244Net Expenses** $824,049Average Annual Expense $8,240Net Hourly Expense

 

[psysicx]

Is it me or is it cheaper just to purchase one of those 100 hour jet cards?

 

[Diesel]

It's you stupid

 

[B25Bomber]

Cards...

The cards are all smoke and mirrors and cost more per hour by a lot but turn the "fixed" costs into variable costs....less hassle...but, at a price.

 

[bluepost]

The EX has 1000 more miles range, more speed (84 cruise I think, 88 redline, 370 kias) and a FA? Wider cabin, great runway numbers. I think the EX is a no brainer.

 

[gunfyter]

Also since NJA has so few EX's and the delivery schedule is slow... You probably have to be upgrades to a G-IV half the time.

 

[CL300Pilot]

The 300

I don't know anything regarding the EX, but I will give you what I can on the 300.

MMO - .83
FFPH - 1500 @ 410 (Service Ceiling is 450)
REF - 113 at 28K
Typical Landing Distance - 2300 Ft.
Take off Distance - 3K to 4200.
TEB to SJC - 4.5 to 5.5 hours dependent on winds with 2500 lbs reserve.

If you have any other questions, please feel free to PM me.

CL300

 

[gunfyter]

FFPH - 1500 @ 410 (Service Ceiling is 450)

Thats pretty good. I am doing nearly that on each engine, 1150pph, in the X