Peter_Griffin
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To quote a few of you... Hey nobody forced them to take the job. Who cares if the family qualifies for food stamps or the inlaws are still clothing their children. They knew what the terms of the job were when they accepted it. All of these pro-union posters need to take a giant leap and stop fighting for these weak causes. If the guy could really make more being a waiter at Bennigan's and needs it, he should go work there...
This crappy attititude is rampant among management and unfortunatly more us pilots than I care to admit. FracCaptains need to be just as concerned for the FOs sitting next to them as they do for themselves. This carries over into the lack of enthusiasm for a union drive from the upper half of the seniority at flex. To take on the attitudes like the ones described above sucks. To not care about their situation -- whethere financial or otherwise -- is not only evidence of $h!tty humanity but could be dangerous as well.
It's a "I've got mine so why fight" attitude. I don't know about you, but the last thing I want the guy sitting next to me thinking about is how if he doesn't eat today they can buy the big case of Pampers at Sam's club versus his wife going to Stonebriar and loading up on the freebies or the guy dodging calls from his wife all day becuase the electricty got turned off and he doesn't have the money to fix it till the expense check (already a week late) deposits cuz he already maxed out the cards to pay the water and car payment. Or the guy who might miss a mortgage payment but never a car payment becuase he realizes he might need to live in that car one day should the ecomony just take one more nosedive. (All true story BTW)
The fact is as pilots we are dreamers and gamblers. We have a tendency think it'll all work out and the sacrifices will be short and worth it. If anyone over told me in my 20's when I started this crazy business that at 45 I'd still be making less than 60k a year I would have laughed and went back to daydreaming about my beach house and porsche. I see it every day...
You took the job because you truly believed "Oh it's just 1 year to the upgrade" or "All your crew meals are catered, so your perdiem will bring you and extra 8k." OR you thought if you could just get you foot in the door and fly you a big ole jet, your employment prospects would go through the roof. You never think about what's gonna happen when Timmy needs braces, the family riots over one more PB&J dinner or your sobbing wife greets you at the door with a bright blue EPT cuz you got a unplanned mid-rotation night home last month.
Just because management (and some thrifty owners) want to exploit these people doesn't mean we should to just becuase we are finally upgraded or making bucks. I NEVER in a million years thought I would be supporting a union drive. I have seen how worthless they have been in many arenas. NJW is a little much for me too sometimes (no offense NJW). But the fact is a union -- and a frac wide union if possible -- is really the only pony we have in the race that will improve our QOL and in my opinion, make our industry stronger and more competative. And if you don't want to do it for yourself take a look back and try and put yourself in a new hires shoes and see if still think it really so fair.
Flex guys, send in your card... www.ibt1108.org.flexjet
Thanks.
This crappy attititude is rampant among management and unfortunatly more us pilots than I care to admit. FracCaptains need to be just as concerned for the FOs sitting next to them as they do for themselves. This carries over into the lack of enthusiasm for a union drive from the upper half of the seniority at flex. To take on the attitudes like the ones described above sucks. To not care about their situation -- whethere financial or otherwise -- is not only evidence of $h!tty humanity but could be dangerous as well.
It's a "I've got mine so why fight" attitude. I don't know about you, but the last thing I want the guy sitting next to me thinking about is how if he doesn't eat today they can buy the big case of Pampers at Sam's club versus his wife going to Stonebriar and loading up on the freebies or the guy dodging calls from his wife all day becuase the electricty got turned off and he doesn't have the money to fix it till the expense check (already a week late) deposits cuz he already maxed out the cards to pay the water and car payment. Or the guy who might miss a mortgage payment but never a car payment becuase he realizes he might need to live in that car one day should the ecomony just take one more nosedive. (All true story BTW)
The fact is as pilots we are dreamers and gamblers. We have a tendency think it'll all work out and the sacrifices will be short and worth it. If anyone over told me in my 20's when I started this crazy business that at 45 I'd still be making less than 60k a year I would have laughed and went back to daydreaming about my beach house and porsche. I see it every day...
You took the job because you truly believed "Oh it's just 1 year to the upgrade" or "All your crew meals are catered, so your perdiem will bring you and extra 8k." OR you thought if you could just get you foot in the door and fly you a big ole jet, your employment prospects would go through the roof. You never think about what's gonna happen when Timmy needs braces, the family riots over one more PB&J dinner or your sobbing wife greets you at the door with a bright blue EPT cuz you got a unplanned mid-rotation night home last month.
Just because management (and some thrifty owners) want to exploit these people doesn't mean we should to just becuase we are finally upgraded or making bucks. I NEVER in a million years thought I would be supporting a union drive. I have seen how worthless they have been in many arenas. NJW is a little much for me too sometimes (no offense NJW). But the fact is a union -- and a frac wide union if possible -- is really the only pony we have in the race that will improve our QOL and in my opinion, make our industry stronger and more competative. And if you don't want to do it for yourself take a look back and try and put yourself in a new hires shoes and see if still think it really so fair.
Flex guys, send in your card... www.ibt1108.org.flexjet
Thanks.
