Rez O. Lewshun
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To prevent a thread hi-jacking form another thread, there is a cut n paste below....
Fly now and grieve later is the law. All Airlines know this. Problem is..pilots don't. The Railway Labor Act, allows airlines to remain in control of thier operation. Otherwise, pilots would deciding if the airline operates or not.
Now, all of this is exclusive of safety. If a pilot has a safety issue, such as fatigue, then fly now grieve later doesn't apply.
Imagine, if a pilot decided he wasn't going to operate a flight? He could simply say the contract says I don't have to do it.... If that attitude spread the company's (not the pilots) operation will slow down big time. Airlines have the right to remain in control of their company.
Unfortunately, these pilots didn't understand how the system works. The mantra continues! Get informed and educated. These pilots are now terminated! Their jobs are not guaranteed back. Now, they must wait on the greivance process and hope they get thier job back. IOW, they are hoping they are right. Even if they were correct in interpreting the contract, they may still remain terminated for insubordination. In addition, regardless, they will not have a seemless employment record.
Also, natually, the company will drag this out, because now, they have an example of what will happen if pilots don't agree with the company. The company has no real motivation to see this greivance thru. It puts all the pilots in a uncomfortable position.
Air Line Pilots Do Not Run Airlines....
Let's discuss.....
PCL now believes that "fly now, grieve later" is the law.
Fly now and grieve later is the law. All Airlines know this. Problem is..pilots don't. The Railway Labor Act, allows airlines to remain in control of thier operation. Otherwise, pilots would deciding if the airline operates or not.
Now, all of this is exclusive of safety. If a pilot has a safety issue, such as fatigue, then fly now grieve later doesn't apply.
Imagine, if a pilot decided he wasn't going to operate a flight? He could simply say the contract says I don't have to do it.... If that attitude spread the company's (not the pilots) operation will slow down big time. Airlines have the right to remain in control of their company.
Unfortunately, these pilots didn't understand how the system works. The mantra continues! Get informed and educated. These pilots are now terminated! Their jobs are not guaranteed back. Now, they must wait on the greivance process and hope they get thier job back. IOW, they are hoping they are right. Even if they were correct in interpreting the contract, they may still remain terminated for insubordination. In addition, regardless, they will not have a seemless employment record.
Also, natually, the company will drag this out, because now, they have an example of what will happen if pilots don't agree with the company. The company has no real motivation to see this greivance thru. It puts all the pilots in a uncomfortable position.
Air Line Pilots Do Not Run Airlines....
Let's discuss.....
I am a little p!ssed today beacuse a good pilot (okay 3, but I only know 1)was termed yesterday for "insubordination" at PCL beacuse he refused to bend the contract in the companies favor. PCL now believes that "fly now, grieve later" is the law. Rumor has it that the Chief Pilot tried to block their firing but was overruled by Phil Trennary, el Jefe himself. What does it tell you when the head of an airline is personally involved in firing pilots?
These three found themselves in this situation for only one reason: other pilots "helped out" and gave away their NEGOTIATED benefits (like not taking reduced rest on CDO's) to the detriment of us all. I no longer work at PCL and haven't for years, but like Mesa pay, this cr@p makes its way through the industry and will affect us all. By giving in, tens or hundreds of other pilots set the stage for these people to be screwed for doing what was their right. Should we be concerned that a load of pax hade to wait an extra hour to comply with the contract as a result of weather? Or should we be more concerned the the pax were flown by a rested crew? Management is willing to roll the dice on YOUR safety. After all, if you screw up they will just fire you. (c.f. "hero", two papragraphs up)