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Yes. Possibly. They change waht they want when they want. If they can not handle it they change things to make it easier for themselves.

Why you ask? Stay far,far away from this place.

Remember "Run Forest run". That's all I have to say about that.
 
Its the next 1130pm berry email from Uncle Joe..

Due to company operations being effected due to crew's days off. We are implementing the following SOP change. Only a crew scheduler can release you. No more 8 on 7 off. If we need you-you stay! Pretty simple folks, Have a good time on the road and be sure to get to the FBO ASAP

send in your card or you may be the next guy mgt folk can "massage".
 
Flight Options is not hiring. The last hiring was August of 2004. Nine pilots were hired at that time. Domicile policy is changing. What the change is, well, we will see. Management has not communicated the nature of the change as yet, but the pilots expect that tier three airports will go away and tier two airports are under the micorscope.

There is an on-going SOP revision discussion at Flight Options. Bottom line, no matter the fractional, you will work and work hard as a line pilot.
 
Grim Reaper said:
Flight Options is not hiring. The last hiring was August of 2004. Nine pilots were hired at that time. Domicile policy is changing. What the change is, well, we will see. Management has not communicated the nature of the change as yet, but the pilots expect that tier three airports will go away and tier two airports are under the micorscope.

There is an on-going SOP revision discussion at Flight Options. Bottom line, no matter the fractional, you will work and work hard as a line pilot.

I think you need to say "abused" in the case of Options. Be prepared to have a change in the SOP between the time you go to bed and the time you get the wake up call.
 
Dep676 said:
I think you need to say "abused" in the case of Options. Be prepared to have a change in the SOP between the time you go to bed and the time you get the wake up call.

Man, I hope you are looking elsewhere - I think CHQ is hiring onto the 170 - that wouldn't be too bad an option... COEX is hiring big time as well. Good luck.
 
On Your Six said:
Man, I hope you are looking elsewhere - I think CHQ is hiring onto the 170 - that wouldn't be too bad an option... COEX is hiring big time as well. Good luck.

I think that 75% or more of the pilots there are looking. No thanks on the airlines.
 
more like 90-95% here in training. everyone is looking, updating and a couple even have interviews. first chance i get ...
 
dash_trash said:
more like 90-95% here in training. everyone is looking, updating and a couple even have interviews. first chance i get ...

I was going to say about 90%. Didn't want some nay sayer to prove it.
 
In a commerical (for profit) aviation setting, pilot porductivity and cost control have been, are, and will be a management focus. More and more the pilots are expected to work for their money. Speaking with a United Airline 737 captain is discovered that he is getting nine hours in the hotel and five legs a day. The average United 737 captain is not walking in high cotten and living the dream and he for sure is not making MEGA, MEGA dollars anymore.
 
Grim Reaper said:
In a commerical (for profit) aviation setting, pilot porductivity and cost control have been, are, and will be a management focus. More and more the pilots are expected to work for their money. Speaking with a United Airline 737 captain is discovered that he is getting nine hours in the hotel and five legs a day. The average United 737 captain is not walking in high cotten and living the dream and he for sure is not making MEGA, MEGA dollars anymore.

And your point is????????????????
 
Point is, it's pretty much the same for everybody. Same issues; too much work, not enough pay, not enough time in the hotel, domicile issues or gateways, turn time between trips, crew meals, too much time on the road; not enough time at home. In the fractionals, no stability in the daily schedule. Briefed one thing only to get the early phone call or the in flight divert. Never enough pilots according to the pilots and never enough pilot productivity according to company management. Same old song just a different choir.
 
Grim Reaper said:
Point is, it's pretty much the same for everybody. Same issues; too much work, not enough pay, not enough time in the hotel, domicile issues or gateways, turn time between trips, crew meals, too much time on the road; not enough time at home. In the fractionals, no stability in the daily schedule. Briefed one thing only to get the early phone call or the in flight divert. Never enough pilots according to the pilots and never enough pilot productivity according to company management. Same old song just a different choir.

yeah but the airline guys are still getting way way more than the fractionals. We are the regionals of the corporate world.
 
Yes, I suppose you are correct but legacy airline types are working more and getting less. The trend will continue. Delta’s new fare structure will accelerate the legacy carrier shift to the LOW COST CARRIER business model. This will set the unions back many years with regard to salary, benefits and work rules. The shift to low cost regional jets is having an impact as well. Routes traditionally covered by mainline aircraft are now ERJ/CRJ routs.

I know that folks at NJA were fond of says, “We’re gonna make NJA the Delta of the fractionals.” They may want to rethink that. Perhaps they should be saying, “We’re gonna make NJA the Southwest of the fractionals.”
 
Grim Reaper said:
Point is, it's pretty much the same for everybody. Same issues; too much work, not enough pay, not enough time in the hotel, domicile issues or gateways, turn time between trips, crew meals, too much time on the road; not enough time at home. In the fractionals, no stability in the daily schedule. Briefed one thing only to get the early phone call or the in flight divert. Never enough pilots according to the pilots and never enough pilot productivity according to company management. Same old song just a different choir.

Being an airline guy I disagree. That is just one man's life at one airline. Just like you can't group all fractional's into a category from talking to one Options guy.
 

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